0:01
citizens we've been rocking with her for
0:03
a long time now Heather be I know I
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remember the baby goat herself yes yes
0:09
the baby goat herself yes she was 15 16
0:13
years of age when she first came on this
0:16
show that crazy I remember we did the
0:18
cipher and she jumped in that Cipher
0:20
with all those sick ass MC's coming from
0:23
BK yep we had her up here on her own and
0:25
she just sliced and diced the microphone
0:28
they still pissed at me and it's
0:30
interesting about this young lady
0:32
because we're seeing this wave of um
0:34
women MC's that's amazing first of all
0:36
give it up to all of these women MC's
0:39
but before a lot of those people were on
0:42
the scene she was Paving she was
0:45
pounding the pavement breaking down
0:47
doors and raising the bar I canot
0:50
believe Mike Muse how skilled she was at
0:53
16 years of age yes baby gok came out in
0:57
2021 M baby go two came out in
1:06
2025 the new album is called bod gal
1:10
music there it is Young dein is in the
1:14
building young de is in the building
1:17
back we are back it feels great you and
1:21
I have kept in touch periodically
1:23
through text messaging first of all I
1:25
want to say I appreciate you yes I
1:27
appreciate you and your family cuz your
1:29
family all always looked out for me
1:30
whenever I was at the airport absolutely
1:34
always looked out for me people all kind
1:36
of strangers are run up to me yeah what
1:38
up sway what's up man we good yeah I'm
1:41
with young de Deon Uncle I'm Deon Uncle
1:45
I'm deon's neighbor I mean I was like
1:47
[Â __Â ] all right but um I think that was a
1:50
testament um to your upbringing and um
1:54
the people that you surrounded yourself
1:55
with which is very important in this
1:57
business because young Devin in my
1:59
opinion you were one of the people who
2:01
to to start this uh to help initiate
2:04
this movement we're seeing would you
2:05
agree Heather of the new MC's we were
2:08
actually talking about you yesterday um
2:10
yeah just I I remember specifically you
2:13
coming up here and still having to go
2:15
back to school yes you know and I was
2:17
thinking about that on my way here I
2:18
said well I don't have to go to school
2:21
today I Lally said that um but when sway
2:24
broke down like the order of time when
2:26
your music and everything came out um I
2:28
noticed I don't like to call it a gap
2:30
year or you took some time off because I
2:32
don't think artists ever really take
2:35
time off if you're a creative person
2:36
you're always thinking you may not know
2:39
where to put it or where to place it
2:41
what where this song going to go but
2:42
what did you do between baby goat 2 and
2:45
now well that actually wasn't even a gap
2:47
year I actually wanted to stop doing
2:48
music um it wasn't even like a break so
2:51
I was going through like a lot in just
2:53
like my life my career just being like a
2:56
young woman just like in the industry
2:58
and just growing up in front of the
2:59
world like you know I've been in front
3:01
the camera since I was like 8 years old
3:03
I'm 22 now so it's like I win in front
3:05
of the world but I also make mistakes in
3:07
front of the world as well and it's like
3:09
you know when you're in a position of
3:10
leadership you get persecuted more
3:12
judged more for certain things so it
3:13
just started weighing down a lot on me
3:16
and like I just got to a point where I
3:18
just felt like it wasn't worth like the
3:21
crown that I had on my head it wasn't
3:23
worth the cost that like it was taking
3:25
from like my life and my family and like
3:27
my day-to-day like mental so I had kind
3:29
of just took a step away from like doing
3:31
music and I had walked away from it
3:33
completely and I like for like a good
3:35
eight months I was like in hiding like I
3:37
wasn't posting I wasn't taking shows I
3:39
was like declining offers for things
3:42
because I really just it wasn't about
3:44
the music for me anymore and I really
3:46
just sat down and like I asked God I
3:48
said God if this is like what you've
3:50
called me on this Earth to do if this is
3:51
really what you've put me here to do
3:53
then like just show me that like you're
3:55
in it like just make your glory like
3:57
undeniable like for even me like leave
3:59
me speechless and sometimes you it's not
4:01
really challenging God but God is so
4:03
powerful that like you have to sometimes
4:05
ask for that power like you can't just
4:07
sit there and think you're going to just
4:09
get it or like cuz faith without works
4:10
is dead so you got to kind of put you
4:13
demand that power and that's what I sat
4:15
down and I did and I said God if this is
4:16
what you want me to do you going to show
4:17
me and like a month later slowly but
4:21
surely he just started putting like
4:22
little ideas back into my head and like
4:25
depositing like little moments of like
4:27
happiness for me and then like I slowly
4:29
just started gaining like a team of
4:30
people and then like a group of like
4:32
just like people that was helping me get
4:34
through my dayto day and eventually I
4:36
formed my own label and then I started
4:38
like having a roll out and just doing
4:40
everything myself I ended up on MTV like
4:42
last week and like all these things
4:44
happen what was your um I don't no it
4:48
was what did I do I did women and rap
4:50
okay yeah I did women and rap and I
4:51
performed like a couple of like new
4:52
singles and things like that but just
4:54
looking back on how I came into this
4:56
year of not wanting to do music to like
4:58
the ending of the year having a debut
5:00
album out and like I'm back where I feel
5:03
like it's like places like home it just
5:05
it gives me the confirmation that God is
5:07
in it so it like lets me know like okay
5:09
like you're back you're doing the right
5:10
thing and you're doing it in purpose I
5:11
feel like before I just wanted to like
5:14
get known be famous show the world my
5:17
talent but that's you know you being
5:18
young and just chasing your dreams but
5:20
then it gets a point in your adulthood
5:21
where you have to align your passion
5:23
with your purpose and that's exactly
5:25
what I think started happening for me so
5:26
that's what that break was young Deon
5:28
sheez my gosh it's I think it's good
5:31
though it happened at the age that it
5:32
happened because you're still very young
5:34
young yeah I'm a baby I'm only my
5:36
birthday is in like a couple days like
5:38
weeks happy birthday happy happy
5:40
birthday you you you got a song when I
5:42
hear you talk it's a song I believe it's
5:45
pronounced daily on yes daily on you
5:47
talk about you had a cousin you lost a
5:49
cousin during that time rest in peace to
5:51
your cousin and um you resorted to pills
5:54
the cope yeah um how how long did that
5:57
last and and where are you now with that
5:59
um you know what I don't take pills
6:00
anymore Uncle I'm good okay good okay
6:02
cuz I was about to Uncle you right now
6:05
you about to feel that Uncle s it was
6:06
like a couple it was a couple of months
6:08
like I was really like taking like pills
6:11
and like drinking certain substances
6:13
that I felt like looking back and like
6:15
that you're insane but in the moment
6:16
when you really in it you don't see how
6:18
dark it is so like you really just do
6:20
anything to escape it but like looking
6:22
back on it I'm not ashamed I look at as
6:24
like a testimony and I'm happy like I
6:26
wasn't so deep in where like I got so
6:28
addicted and dependent and like I would
6:30
have to like go to there so I'm really
6:31
thankful that I was kind of able to
6:32
shake my own self and be like girl
6:34
you're bugging like that's not you yeah
6:36
and so I kind of how you shake it though
6:38
um that was kind of like cold turkey I
6:40
would say also to the person I was
6:42
dealing with at the time they told me
6:44
they said um you're because I was taking
6:48
the pills and I would sleep all the time
6:49
and they would tell me like you're
6:51
boring like cuz all you do is sleep cuz
6:53
you be high and I didn't like that like
6:55
it rubbed me the wrong way and then like
6:57
that was kind of like what the positive
6:59
in my brain to be like okay you got to
7:01
stop and then slowly but surely I just
7:03
like cut it I love this young Devon man
7:06
not so young anymore but still young
7:09
young with an old Spirit story um this
7:15
g is you went back to your roots yes you
7:19
went back to your roots this doesn't
7:21
sound like everything else okay was that
7:23
part part of your transformation yeah
7:26
absolutely I think um a part of like me
7:28
just like figuring myself out is is also
7:30
just figuring out how to authentically
7:33
be Devon in front the world and not like
7:35
conform to like the waves of the world
7:37
like it's okay to like absorb the things
7:39
that are going on I feel like that's a
7:40
part of being an artist and a longl
7:41
lasting artist but you always have to be
7:43
yourself within anything that you do and
7:46
I feel like beforehand when I was
7:48
younger I was just letting I was
7:49
conforming to the rooms instead of
7:50
transforming them so I would be really
7:53
good for example like drill rapping but
7:56
it's like there's so much more to me but
7:59
I'm really good at this one thing and
8:01
people are like seeing me for it I'm
8:02
going just keep doing it stay in that
8:03
lane for a second but then it's like
8:05
you're now conforming to what's going on
8:07
when people liked you because you was
8:08
different yeah so I kind of had to just
8:11
remember all of that like and I had to
8:12
remember who I am and whose I am so when
8:15
it came to create in bod music I just
8:17
looked back at my entire life and my
8:18
entire career and just put it all
8:22
together in a story of like who I
8:24
authentically and genuinely am and the
8:25
album took me like two years to make
8:27
like some some songs on there I made
8:28
like two years ago other songs I made a
8:30
week before the album came out so it's
8:33
like it was that's kind of how it came
8:35
together that's what I meant like even
8:36
when you don't feel like it as an artist
8:38
you're somehow yeah like even when I was
8:40
in darkness I still was making the noise
8:43
cuz when you can't see all you have is
8:44
sound so that's all I kept doing was
8:47
just creating music like even when I had
8:49
no idea how to put it out I just was
8:51
recording yeah like I would just feel
8:53
depressed I'll go to the studio make a
8:54
song but then it'll turn around and be
8:55
the hit that's on my like album so you
8:58
know I'm happy how like my my pain
8:59
turned into purpose but yeah B music was
9:02
just like a overall perspective of just
9:05
everything that I always wanted to put
9:06
out that I never got the chance to or
9:08
the team I had at the time was trying to
9:10
Market me a certain way so like I
9:12
couldn't even make certain type of
9:13
sounds that I wanted to for example like
9:16
I've been wanting to do like my
9:17
Caribbean thing or like my melodic thing
9:19
but my team at the time they told me it
9:20
was too early and I'm like I don't know
9:22
how that's early I came into this game
9:24
SOA but you know it's like sometimes you
9:27
got to just go through the motions and
9:29
get what you can out of situation so
9:30
that when it's your time you could you
9:32
know learn and do it how you want to do
9:34
it I can't believe this girl is only
9:36
this woman is 22 22 still super young
9:40
Mike you want to jump in man yeah so
9:43
much but so mature so congratulations to
9:45
you in your journey I'm just curious I
9:47
know you wrote a lot of that music while
9:48
you're in a dark place you're so happy
9:50
right now you're finding Joy how do you
9:52
reconcile and balancing when you're
9:53
performing and hearing that music when
9:55
you're in your dark place m i mean I
9:57
look at all my music as like a testimony
9:59
so like I'm never really too ashamed of
10:01
my pain and there was a point in time
10:02
where I was so I wouldn't be able to
10:04
even speak on certain things but like
10:06
now it's like when you know that God is
10:08
using you every piece of your story is
10:11
for a testimony like even things that I
10:13
might Overlook in a sentence or
10:15
something I might say that I might think
10:16
is minor and that might be something
10:18
that like deposited in somebody's Spirit
10:20
like so I don't know I really just I
10:22
just appreciate everything and I think
10:24
that's what keeps me very happy and like
10:26
humble because it's like I take every
10:28
opportunity for like what it genuinely
10:30
is cuz there was a point where I didn't
10:31
even want any of this anymore so it's
10:33
like to be back in this room it's like
10:37
girl this is crazy like for me like when
10:39
I go home I'm going to cry you know but
10:41
it's more like tears of joy like wow
10:43
like look at where you got yourself back
10:45
too you know what I'm saying so amen yo
10:47
young Devin is here man come on I got
10:49
chills for this she got gypson on her
10:51
album hello come on I don't know how
10:53
they did that God you know what's so
10:56
crazy I don't even know Egyptian
10:58
Egyptian doesn't know me I was in the
11:00
studio and my DJ's dad is like his
11:03
friend right so like they're in a
11:04
backyard party he's in like Brooklyn
11:06
chilling somewhere so his dad facetimes
11:09
me because his dad loves me so he's like
11:11
yo I'm Egyptian I'm like yo I'm in the
11:13
studio tell him pull up he's like all
11:15
right and then like in 20 minutes dyon
11:17
pulls up so I'm I was already making the
11:20
song uhhuh and I didn't have a second
11:22
verse on it so I'm playing him the song
11:23
I'm like yo he's like y I like your
11:24
voice your tone of voice is very nice I
11:26
was like you want to get on it he's like
11:28
yeah then he jumps on the song and he's
11:30
like yo let's do a swap so like I'm
11:32
going to do one for your album you do
11:33
one for mine so then I did a record for
11:35
him and then that's how I always kept it
11:37
but I just always had the song in the
11:39
tuck cuz I knew like that's a gold mine
11:41
right there like people don't have songs
11:42
with [Â __Â ] yeah so I always knew like when
11:45
it was time for me yeah mood mood got
11:49
you know um now that's incredible you
11:51
say Egyptian on your project um Jay the
11:54
kingdom yes you know who did the
11:56
production um it was like a a
11:59
it was everybody shout out to Angel on
12:01
the boards he did like a lot of my um
12:03
production for a lot of my singles but a
12:05
lot of these song like this entire
12:06
project every single thing about this
12:08
project was like authentically me which
12:09
is why I'm super proud like I made the
12:12
cover art myself like the track listing
12:14
I put it together I an anr my project I
12:16
didn't ask anybody to find me beats like
12:18
I just I wrote everything put the
12:20
records together the features mixed the
12:22
songs down like everything fully came
12:24
from like me my team I created my label
12:26
B ENT and we really just like been
12:29
working and put it out so it's been
12:31
rocking like a socket I like this man
12:34
young de man I'm man I love it man and
12:36
she got the coat on Heather I KN I know
12:39
why she wore the coat New York because
12:41
sometimes it's it's freezing and when
12:43
you walking through the valley of the
12:44
hyenas you got to cover
12:49
up you ready for this I'm ready this is
12:52
what I came here for Uncle way I've been
12:53
waiting like five years for this I took
12:55
a break I actually rap better let's just
12:57
do this [Â __Â ] shut it down
13:02
up this a volume yeah Brooklyn Trinidad
13:07
get stand up it's my story a tell all
13:11
they wanted me to stop but I sped off
13:12
the only phrase that don't apply to
13:13
mention I is fell off really a head off
13:16
most of all these rappers I'm bet off my
13:17
shows packed like I done set me some off
13:19
yes I'm really hurt never be confused by
13:21
what you see cuz I done been it worse I
13:23
was trying to take you watch your GLE
13:24
how the devil work haters looking
13:26
miniature L Body pick a b still got it
13:28
never curse we slide and get them hurt
13:30
but I done leveled up to new Arenas I
13:32
can't afford a crash already spent a
13:33
couple racks up on sneakers in my neck
13:35
and steady sitting on Katrina a pretty
13:37
liid triny from the East I give respect
13:39
off my demeanor I'm so stable had to
13:41
treat the game like it's my roster on No
13:43
Label my old team tried to eat without
13:44
me had no table can never say a static
13:47
when they see me it's no cable sh I tell
13:49
my ex who try to down me I don't hate
13:50
you I've been on top can never see me
13:52
under pled to the haters where the
13:54
Stevie Wonder Jus looking peanut butter
13:56
had to stash the bread between the seat
13:57
and covers still AOS are right up in
13:59
trenes from the east on S how the hell
14:00
she still up in the leag God got me why
14:03
I'm even walking on this beat ask foxy
14:05
really know the queen DM me I said copy
14:07
I hit a f s and call a team did it prop
14:10
I be with a top be trolling in my
14:12
comments but you posted with a ox be
14:14
never been nowhere see nothing but watch
14:16
me if I feel funny do something they
14:18
flocking PS are still popping went from
14:20
EBT to be rapping on BET left my label
14:23
on myself and I stamped it as BGE got
14:25
your favorite rapper crushing I'm making
14:26
them BG I'm no bomb it's no discussion
14:28
I'm St out of TNT yes sir I've been in
14:31
it for a minute cuz y'all tried up Ricky
14:33
pants tied up Lou Duff will probably
14:35
mash the belt to make it wild CR fit
14:37
that I'm up about to make it known to
14:38
raap a fashion y can't try her but
14:40
listen I can tell you about the days
14:42
before rapping was a living I was
14:44
trapping in the rain of storm ask about
14:46
me had the city jumping like if Angel
14:47
scored I want to get to details but
14:49
ain't trying to get my ankles caught
14:50
rail hitter that's why I'm respected
14:52
from the hood to Andy Hill figure step
14:53
in any room I know I'm good these is
14:55
real killers next game feet up on the
14:57
wood so I could feel bigger yeah I took
14:59
lost and resurrected I'm a real Winer me
15:04
young that was great we got L this up in
15:07
there get get them get them get them I
15:11
want to put my sun on I ain't put my sun
15:13
on all year get them good get on all
15:17
year get them get them you going to keep
15:20
going you going keep doing it get she
15:21
made me want to bring this back you got
15:23
to bring it back you whack rapper oh
15:27
popy Uncle I'm ready I'm ready you whack
15:29
ra your time is limited your days are
15:32
numbered wack rap is not allowed your
15:43
wow that [Â __Â ] was SI that's how you do
15:45
it that's how you do it that's how you
15:48
ain't high five nobody this year no no
15:51
no no I gave her I gave a high five rap
15:53
city was here yesterday shout out to
15:56
love you got to love rap city um yeah
15:58
cple a lot I don't give out a lot though
16:00
but that's why I said from you that
16:02
means a lot cuz you're a tough
16:05
cookie always been that way I was say I
16:08
know I say like you're a tough
16:11
cookie make that into a drop she's not
16:14
lying at all okay young Deon I'm proud
16:16
of you I need everybody to support this
16:19
project she has her own label she got
16:22
her team look at her team they they
16:24
Garden Her Like She's a Precious Diamond
16:27
what was that the 13 the oh yo y'all in
16:30
town Scotty y'all in town next
16:34
Friday we said we live in town Uncle
16:37
wherever you call us we there BGE will
16:39
be in attendance the whole entire family
16:41
okay BG BGE bent know I said they'll be
16:45
there next Friday we doing our year in
16:47
wrap up I want to have y'all we going to
16:49
set up a mic too hello okay young Devon
16:51
will be there okay yo I love you I love
16:54
you Uncle I thank you for all your
16:56
unconditional love I want to always give
16:57
you your roses and of the world even
16:59
though I do it behind the scenes you've
17:01
shown me nothing but love over the years
17:03
and you let me be crazy be a wild little
17:06
kid and come back home to myself so I
17:07
always will thank you and love you
17:08
forever and I'm super proud of you and
17:11
you inspire us thank you I appreciate