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Tech N9ne: 25 Years of Independent Hip-Hop Mastery 🎤 | SWAY’S UNIVERSE
Jul 3, 2025
Join Sway In The Morning for an exclusive interview with Tech N9ne as he celebrates 25 years of independent hip-hop mastery! 🎤 Discover how he built Strange Music into one of the most successful independent labels in history, his journey from early mixtapes to billion streams, and his experiences with legends like Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis, and Quincy Jones. Tech breaks down the making of his powerful new album "58164," his dedication to connecting with fans worldwide, and the challenges of innovating in the ever-changing music industry. Don't miss this inspiring conversation filled with untold stories, career-defining moments, and a look into the future of Strange Music. Subscribe now for more exclusive interviews and hip-hop insights only on Sway’s Universe! 🔥 #TechN9ne #StrangeMusic #58164 #SwayInTheMorning #IndependentHipHop #creativefreedom #rap #musicpromotion #techn9neinterview #hiphop CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Tech N9ne & Sway Reflect On Their Long History Together 02:41 - Tech N9ne on New Album ‘Asin9ne’ & Jimmy Jam Relationship 08:52 - Tech N9ne Discusses Quincy Jones & Perspective Records 10:18 - Tech N9ne on JCOR Records & First National Tour 13:13 - Importance of Performing Live 15:48 - Tech N9ne's "Einstein" & "Psycho Bitch II" 18:08 - Tech N9ne's "Angel of Death" 26:59 - Inspiration From Eminem and J. Cole 28:53 - Tech N9ne and The Road Dogs 31:45 - Your Stepfather 35:37 - The Devil Worship Rumors 37:56 - Tech N9ne’s Youngest Daughter Alina D. Yates 40:14 - Having a Baby in Your 50s 42:18 - Calls: B from Kansas City 43:16 - Calls: Ricardo from the Southeast
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Ladies and gentlemen, I've known this man since the 90s before come before the
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storm came out right in 99. I've known this man. Yeah, man. I know mixtape Tech
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9. Whoa. Come on. Talk your [ __ ] I'll go back to when the man was beatboxing.
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Come on, sir. Yes, sir. Break dance beat. I I know the beat boy tech. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Y'all know the MC Tech 9.
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I know the beat boy tech. Heather B, I ain't mad at that. You got to let them know. Tell your story. I was there
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before he did a billion streams. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I was there before he co-ounded the the the Was I there before
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you co-ounded Strange Music? Yes. Midwest Side? Yeah. Yes. Yeah, brother. You was there before Strange Music? Yes,
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sir. You're fact checking your own facts. Okay. I saw I saw what you did right there. Yeah. You were you were
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you're in the Midwest side day and diamond rest. Come on, man. not go back
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that far. For those who don't know, strange music before Tech 9 has strange music. We always like to talk about it.
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Salute to Don Juan, Kansas City's most most one of the most reputable producers and music guys. Travis had to call you.
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You know what I'm saying? That's right. Yeah. Travis did call me. He had to call you to introduce himself and all that
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kind of stuff. Connected. He had to call you. Travis's text business partner with Paris Music. And when they first
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started, Travis called me and talked because we were working together with management and putting out music and
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putting Tech 9 and I wanted to see him shine. We and we work together because
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King Tech and I always believe in certain artists and and certain artists when they're independent, they don't
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have the they didn't have the muscle, right? They didn't have the resources. So, we knew if we stood next to artists
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like a Tech 9 that it would help them get into doors and and and just break through. Shout out to King Tech. And so,
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uh, when you and Travis first came together, you got and y'all created this strange music movement and he he had a
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vision and Tech and I were doing a whole lot of stuff. Eventually went to MTV. It made sense. Yes, it did. Right. It made
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sense. And you two have been able to go on and create the most successful independent record label in hip hop
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history. Yes. 25 years strong. 25 years. There's no Universal Music. There was no
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Universal Music Distribution. No, there was no inner scope, no nothing. Nothing.
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There was all independent distributors, right? Yeah. In different regions that you guys collaborated with, and created
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your own distribution chain. Exactly. Over multi-million albums sold later.
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Um, a number of Billboard chart topping projects. Um, over a billion streams
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later. Um, this man is considered one of the hardest working people in show business. I want to say congratulations
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on this new project. 58164 is out now. Powerful project. The one
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and only tech nine tech is in the building. Come on. Always love, man.
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Always love. Thank you, man. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You never know where you may end up. You know what I'm
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saying? We look at each other and I know it's a trip to him because we've been looking at each other for over 27 years.
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He done been in clubs in Kansas City with me. You know what I'm saying? That's beautiful. in my town. In his town. We they you and Don Juan took me
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to a strip club or something. Oh, no. It wasn't a strip club. No, it wasn't a strip club. It was It was a regular
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club. It was a regular club. And they tried to make you take your hat off to get in. And you said, "I'm not taking my hat off. I'm sorry." Oh, that's right.
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Yeah. And we got in there. And we got in. Yes, sir. And I said I said, "If he
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can't come in, I can't come in." Uhhuh. That's right. They wanted me to expose the locks.
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Yeah, they did. They did. That's why you thought it was a strip club. Yeah. It
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was Kansas City. It looked like a strip club. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Cuz him and Don Juan had all
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these girls around me. Yes, sir. You remember that? I remember that like yesterday. How did I handle it? Uh like
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a gentleman. Yes, sir. I was a true gentleman. Like these women
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were like at me and I was like, "Hey, you know, thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much." What's your vision in life? You know, I was Oh, you went
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deep on them. want to hear that [ __ ] outside of the club. Your vision. Yeah. Get them off.
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Get them off. Get them off. Yeah. That was like, you know, but what I learned though is that, you know, in hip-hop is,
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you know, it's regional, right? And Tech 9 at that time was bigger than any
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mainstream artist from any other place in the country. If you came to Kansas City, they weren't going to be bigger
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than Tech 9. Right. Right. We come a long way, brother. Yes, we have, man. We
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both look good, man. Come on. Look at us. Yeah. Heather compliments me all the time, too. Yes. Um, I want to We talk
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about the beginning of your history, but what folks may not realize is that at one point you you you were linked with
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Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, right? Yeah, that was my first major deal in 93. You know, I got to sign with Jimmy Jimmy
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Terry Lewis Perspective&M for sure. That's right. Well, how did that go? That went uh it didn't go. You know what
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I'm saying? They were cool, but the people who were working there, they didn't understand, you know, at that
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time, you know, protect your neck. It came out and they had put uh this guy on us for our ANR rep named Life Allah. He
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was from Life, New York. New York. And he said, uh, you got to do this, son. I said, I can't do that. I'm from the
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Midwest. You got to do this, son. It's not going to work. You know what I'm saying? Protect your neck. This, this was 93. You know what I'm saying? Out
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out here. Yeah. Wuang clan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it was like that didn't work. And uh Jimmy Jimmy
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Jimmy Terry Lewis were always there for me and everything, man. But the people
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who were working there, Sharon Hayward at the time, man, they didn't know what to do with Tech 9. But the many But see,
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in no fault of Well, no one knew what to do with a tech and I didn't know that at
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the time. Yeah. Right. I had to figure that out that we had to show them how to do strange music. You know, you had to
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write your own blueprint. Yes, sir. Similar to what we saw Jay Prince and Rapalot Records have to do with Rapalot
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Records. Yes, sir. Too short with 75 girls. Yes, sir. Easy E with Ruthless Records. All day. Right. Right. Luke
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with Luke Skywalker Records because the industry was so centralized in New York
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and LA and people didn't know the culture of other places. Well, no, I definitely understand that. I was there so I understand it. But it's confusing
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to me, Tech 9, because some of that should have served as inspiration. I
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don't understand how and yeah how a ANR person can compare a posi track, you
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know what I mean? Which protect your neck was and this movement with Wuang in general, they're still around 30 years
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later to a solo artist. Well, the thing about it is, and it still happens, the
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major labels want to mimic what's popping. That was the only thing. They
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just wanted me to mimic what everybody was running toward. And you know, it's a business, so I understand that thought
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process, but not with an innovator like Tech 9. You know what I'm saying? You don't say, "You got to do that, son."
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And I'm like, "Nah, I can't do that, brother." Yeah. They're creating their own innovation if you want to create your own. Absolutely. So, it's just the
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the major label mentality is like, "If Usher's popping, we need to get another Usher. If if so and so's popping, we
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need to get Justin Bieber." You know what I'm saying? It's like they try to mimic what's hot, you know? And that's
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what the problem was. So you took that inspiration and did what? Like so after that whole debacle happened and you were
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cool. You mentioned Jimmy Jam and Terry. They were cool. What was your next step? My next step I got signed with Quincy
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Jones in 97. I said it is. I was you know what I'm saying? Quest Warner, right? And uh Quincy was more like you
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know. Yeah, he was. He was like I love your style. It reminds me of Bbop. Let's
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just go, you know. And uh once again, the people that was working there at
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Quest wanted me to do popcorn, kind of like music, you know, Shaq had a movie
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coming out called uh Steel or something. Steel. Yeah. And they wanted me to do
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this song Techina. Tanina, why you so damn psycho? You know what I'm saying?
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You remember that one? Further like that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Q3 did the beat. You know what I'm saying? And uh I
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wanted to start with Tech 9 Planet Rock 2K, you know what I'm saying? The down south version. And we
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just was bumping heads. And every time Quincy would be back in town and we'd go up to his house in uh Bair, he would
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say, "How they treating you up there?" He's like, "They're not." Then he would fire everybody who was involved. Oh my
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gosh. And they So they hated us up there. Oh, they hated you because they thought you were getting them fired.
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Yeah. Because they didn't know what the hell to do with you. Yes. Yes. You was firing [ __ ] Like for real. So
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it got bad. You know what I'm saying? So um 98
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we got off that. Yeah. That's we all Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And then JCore came
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in the picture, you know. Well, Travis came in the picture first in 98 and uh
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you know, he had to call you. Yeah. And say, "Hey, we trying to clean this up, man. What we got to do?" Way like, "Hey,
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it's going to take something." Yeah. A
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it's going to take something. You got something. It's going to take something. You doing a lot of work, you know. Yeah.
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Well, we we really saw the reason why like if you watch our we did a video called the anthem that featured J
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Felony, Pharaoh M Rizza. Yes. You know, Chino XL, KRS1, Coogi Rap, Eminem, you
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know, uh Exhibit, uh you know, all these different folk. Riza kicked it off. Yes. And we wanted to put I always tell the
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story because I think it's a beautiful story. We all we had all this posi cuts and see Rizza was huge at that time.
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Eminem was coming. Yes. You know, and we put Tech 9 second. Yeah. On purpose.
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Strategic. Strategically between Rizza and Eminem so people be forced to hear
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Tech 9. Right. Right. And people I still s sign those records in my meet and
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greets all over the world, man. Wow. Come on, man. I'm so proud of you, brother. Tech9 is here. New album 58164.
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I want to talk about that. Yes. But when you see all of these things now, um, and
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we hear your story after those that that journey with Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis, Quincy Jones, Strange Music came out of
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that as an independent label. Yes. And you figured out something in the 90s
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that everybody now is seeming to figure out. Exactly, man. Right. Yes, I did.
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Yes, I did. There's a lot of touring, merchandise, everything. And we could do it on our own. You know what I'm saying?
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Now, it takes your money, your own money, and you might lose like we did
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the first tour, 140,000. But if you believe that you have something special
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like me and Travis knew, we kept hitting it hard. Kept hitting every town, all
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the towns that people don't go to as well. You not just the big cities, you know what I mean? just going there and
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doing shows for seven people in San Diego and then when I come back it's 30 to come back it's 100 come back it's 300
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then we selling out the house of blues we did this in every town man pretty much Casper Wyoming man you know such as
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going places where people say people don't never come here you know thank you Tech9 we figured that out early on that
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if you want to be the hip-hop president you got to be out there politicking and how do we politic through song. You know
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what I'm saying? We We You know, it's saying we got to get out there and touch the people, shaking hands and kissing babies. You know what I'm saying?
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Heather says that all the time. Oh, yeah. Go touch the people. I always say that's that's it's not better than or
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anything, but I think that's what sort of separates the Sway in the morning show. We we go out and about in the
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community. We do live broadcast all across the country. We want to see the people who support this show and and
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listen to us. It's important. How How can you know? How can you know what the people want if you ain't out there
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talking and being involved in the community and doing things all over the world? You know what I'm saying? I've seen y'all in Austin, Texas. That's
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right. Post it up like a shop going live. You know what I mean? It's
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like getting out there with the people cuz the people make this possible. Period. Without them, it wouldn't be no
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Tech 9 Strange Music. You see this empire we built with all these buildings and car washes and it's just crazy. What
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all y'all have now, man? We got like I think we got like six buildings and then
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some some property down there that we're going to build some other stuff on. You know what I mean? Like you know like
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really but you know we still got the uh you got the compound still. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We got we we got HQ. We got
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we got Strange Land Studios. We got Strange World right next to it where we do all our merchandise, man. We got
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Strange Works, Strange Box, you know what I'm saying? These are all buildings. Yeah. You know what I mean? And the and and the and the car wash and
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everything, man. It's just it's amazing what you can do with the love from the people, you know? Uhhuh. And and if you
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take your time and you like you said, if you believe in yourself because what we're seeing, I'm curious two two
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things. Number one, when you talk about touching the people, you haven't even mentioned social media. No, I you have
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not. And people lean on social media like it's the holy grail. If I get a
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view on my Instagram or Tik Tok, that means that it's something tangible.
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Yeah. What are your thoughts on that? Touching the people or compared to social media. It's just it's just
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another era, man. You know what I mean? We had to do the footwork. Now, when technology comes into play,
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it's supposed to make it easier for the user. I ain't hating that it's easier
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for the user because I even use it but at the same time we had to do it organically like what we have back then
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maybe MySpace or something you know what I'm saying like you know we had to do it like that but technology technology
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makes it to where the new kids can blast out everything to the whole world. It
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had to happen. It had to happen. It's happened with me. Like I went over to Russia. I've been over to Mosva. We call
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it, they call it Mosva over there, but we say Moscow or Moscow. You know what I'm saying? But I went over there in
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2019. I had a soldout show with like 4,000 people. I never been there. Wow. That's because technology. Yeah. So,
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we've been in it so long that we had to do the footwork early on and then
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adjusted to the new way. And it spread abroad even more. So, I ain't hating on
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it at all, man. Without that, it wouldn't be Tech9 fans in India. We weren't going to India back then. We
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weren't going to Nigeria back then. You know what I'm saying? It's like this is the internet, man. Yeah. The internet.
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Do you suggest to those who just live by the internet to also go outside? I do.
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All right. I do because some people who just live on the internet and some people that have major deals can't even
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get a thousand people in a club to perform. That's what I'm saying, right? You know what I mean? You got to get out there and show them who you are. Touch
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the people. You know what I mean? Share your music. Let them see what you can do and keep doing it over and over and
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over. And that's how you build a fan base. Now, that's not saying that you can't do it on social media because it's
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been done. Absolutely. I'm just saying do not abandon the actual
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real thing. The hand Yes. Yes. The IRL. Yes. What what are
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your thoughts about you? We're seeing the industry really collapse and it's is
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I don't know what it's going to morph into, but we've seen a lot of labels collapsing now because streaming, okay?
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You know what I'm sizzling? And uh me and Travis's been talking about this for a couple of years now, man. You know
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what I'm saying? We cannot sustain this way. We cannot sustain. So, we've been talking about direct to consumer a lot
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lately, and we have the core fan base to be able to do that. in my opinion. Yeah.
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And in Trav's opinion as well. So this thing where the artists get pennies for
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this wonderful art, this wonderful art that just dropped today. Yeah. This album. Yes. Yeah. This album 5816 Forest
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free. You know what I'm saying? Pretty much. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's hurtful. Mhm. We have to do something
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and make it exclusive on our site. If you want the Tech9
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music, if you want Strange Music to make it exclusive to be able to sustain
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because with streaming the way it's going, it's No, man. So the difference
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between distributing hard copies of CDs, right, vinyl, cassettes,
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and the and the money that comes back from that compared to streaming and the money that comes back from that. How
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different is it? It's more than half of our revenue, man. You know what I'm saying? It's it's horrible. I'm saying,
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but we would still sell our digital on
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our site, but you got to pay for that because it's exclusive. And then when
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and a major does it, everybody's going to follow suit. You know what I'm saying? Me and X-rated been talking about it for a long time. Me, X-rated,
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and and Travis, you know what I'm saying? So, it's it's got to be a shift where we jump out there. Like we said,
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FTI back then, [ __ ] the industry. Here it comes again. If you want this kind of music, if you want this music over here,
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it's only over here. It's exclusive to Strange Music and it's a big record.
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Yeah. You know what I mean? Shift. Love it. Tech 9 giving up game right now, man. Um Um I remember when you was I
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think we sat and met with Quincy once too and the Pail brothers, I feel like over there, right? Yeah, we did. You
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did. Right. And I'm curious to like would you It's Quinc. It's Jimmy Jam Terry Lewis.
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It's Quincy Jones. So, you would sit down with Quincy and play your music? Yeah, I would. So, some of your early
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music you gave to Quincy Jones. Mitch Bade? I couldn't believe he like ghetto ass Mitch Bade. Have you ever met a
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[ __ ] who was pish Braun? You remember that? Yes. He loved it. What up, Mitch? Is it everything thing for you to act
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just like a [ __ ] How does it feel to have a [ __ ] that would kill you for the foul [ __ ] you pitch? He liked that and
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said it sounded like Bbop. You know what I'm saying? He heard Einstein and this
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ring and like wow Einstein. Yeah. Okay. Did he hear psych? See, psycho [ __ ] was
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one of my psycho psycho [ __ ] was one of my favorite songs. We play that all the time. Yo, D plays psych. Come on, man.
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Oh my god. This Wait, hold on. Let's let this this song, man. You played this for Quincy Jones. What did you No, no, I
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didn't play it for Quincy Jones. Okay. Uh, we sent out a CD to Quincy Jones in
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QD3. Um, with five songs on a CD. You know what I'm saying? After he loved
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Mitch Bade, they wanted more. Okay. So, we put um Einstein on there. We put
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Psycho [ __ ] on there. We put um uh Suicide Letters on there. We put This
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Ring on there. And we put My Own Hell on there. Uh-huh. So when I finally met
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Quincy Jones in his house here and rest his soul, his house here in Bair, he
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told me, "Hey, for hip-hop artists that come through here, I send
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them or their music to Puff to get his idea of what he thinks it's going to do or what it's going to be." And he told
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me, "Yeah, Puff Sean Puffy Cones." Okay. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. I never told this story, man, because, you know,
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I never really wanted to sound like the mad rapper. So, I kept it to myself, but I was crushed. You know what I'm saying?
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Because I knew the beat that I had was obscure. I knew that nobody in hip-hop
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had never ever used the drums from Keras One's Part-Time Suckers cuz I'm deep in
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the crates. You know what I'm saying? So, I know this is something totally original and putting the Michael Myers
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theme on there. When I first told Don Juan I want to use these drums with Michael Myers. He said Michael Myers
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won't fit to that. I said yes it will. I said because he said because of going
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I said you got to push it more than one time. Like
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you know what I'm saying? Okay. Okay. Okay. But see that one is that's the real Okay. Yes. Okay. the way you you
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can't do that beat on there because the way it's moving. Okay.
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Okay. I see. You know what I'm saying? So, you got What does this have to do with Puffy? So, Quincy Jones to I can't
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believe I'm about to tell the story, man, after all these years, man. Um Quincy Jones, like I said, he told me
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that he sends the hip-hop artist that he signs to or he's thinking about signing
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to Puff to see what he thinks. Right. Puff told Quincy, "This is really good."
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Dope. So, we went along with the deal and everything. You know what I'm saying? Because Puff said, "This is it." Puff stamped you. Yes, he did. He did. I
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felt great. Yeah. I felt great. Uhhuh. You know, Angelic didn't come out to
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2001, right? Puff heard it in 97.
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Then crazily two years later in like 99 98 maybe one
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year later or two years later You Can Hate Me Now came out you know what I'm saying? Part-time suckers drums
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basketball season has like psycho [ __ ] but he just changed it
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broke my heart man because this was such a big song and mine was still out there
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not released and I know nobody ever thought to do this. I don't know who did
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the beat. I think Trackmaster did the beat. I'm saying I swear to God when I heard it I'm like
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this [ __ ] got this from my song. I inspired him. Wow. [Music]
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I was crushed. [Music] That's the same beat that they psycho
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[ __ ] He just used a different Pretty Boy producers. We got Big Horse from
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Bravehearts up in there. Who else was there when that was all done with Nas and Puff? Who else was there? Yeah,
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Pretty Boy and um um something Moette DJ Moette did that song. Uhhuh. So So do
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you think I'm Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Do you think that Puff might
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have showed them the song? Like I want to do something like this. No, actually Puff didn't have nothing to do with the production or nothing. Pretty Boy was
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the one that did the hook and everything and they was like, "You know what? Get him." He's He was sounding so much like Puff. They just was like, "Yo, let Puff
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do the hook." Puff didn't even know nothing about the record, the making of the record or nothing. He was a feature. Really? Really? That's crazy. Yeah. So,
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what you're trying to tell me is that [ __ ] are thinking the same thing at the same time. And it happens. That
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happens. Yeah. But damn. But at the at the time, I felt like that [ __ ] heard
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my [ __ ] Yeah. Somebody heard my [ __ ] Uhhuh. You know what I'm saying? But but y'all were circulating that tape around
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though, right? Yeah, we were. Yeah, we were. Yo, that's a [ __ ] crazy ass. So, just think how I felt. Yeah. When I
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saw Puff being a part of it and he heard that from Quincy, that's why I felt like that. You felt like the in the the
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ingenuity came from your music. You felt like the idea might have the influence came from your music. That's what I
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thought. Wow. Yeah, man. That's crazy. So, Psycho [ __ ] came out finally 2001.
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It's a fan favorite. I wasn't mad, but I wanted to be the first. Yo, but
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sometimes when you're not moving as fast as the next man, they'll get it. They'll
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get it first because we watch the same movies. We watch We listen to the same music. We all watch, you know,
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Halloween. You know what I'm saying? We all listen to Andrew Lloyd Weber. We we we we all are hip-hop heads, you know,
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for some crazy reason that [ __ ] came out before mine. You know, you'll hear uh
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Will I Am tell a story about Prince and Michael Jackson and how Michael would call and say, "Hey, we got to do this
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song fast, otherwise God is going to give it to Prince." You know, it happens
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sometimes. You hear Montel Jordan talk about when he put out this is how we do it and then I think nine had a track the
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artist um was named nine up the name up in lights in n yeah and they used the
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same yes slick ribe could be that but [ __ ] it's close as hell I've never heard
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you tell this story yeah I never told it I never told it man so I kept it to myself because what would I sound like I
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could be wrong that's why I never told the story either cuz he just said another [ __ ] did it
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and and Pub didn't know nothing about it. And Horse was there. Horse was and you were in the studio. Horse was I was there. I was there when when Pretty Boy
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played the beat for Stout and Stout took took his fur coat and was like, "Yo, go get the drum machine. Go get everything
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and I'll give you a coat back." So Pretty Boy is Foxy Brown, you know,
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her brother. He he was a producer at the time. Cuz when I remember when Horse told me about I'm like how Puff got on
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it. I It was just confusing to me. And he said, um, nah, actually he was, uh,
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Pretty Boy was on the hook first. Yeah. And then they wanted to make the song bigger. As, as you said, labels come in and they wanted to make it bigger. Wow,
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man. This is interesting. Tech 9 is here, man. Give this man a round of applause. I didn't know that. Tech 9
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being in the studio today. To me, [ __ ] Wow. Somebody heard that [ __ ]
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Somebody heard that [ __ ] Yo, not to be doubted. You can't Yeah. You can't say somebody didn't because back
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then in the music business, you could send me your demo or or uh you know
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songs. I'm sending it to people, too. Your demo was circulating everywhere. Timberland had this ring. Yeah. When he
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when I finally met him with QD3, they were talking about doing some kind of joint thing together back then in in
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90798. You know what I'm saying? And uh he was like, "Man, you you need to get War Boy
26:46
Pey that that that this ring. You know how you talk. Uh, you need to give him my boy Pety Pety Pablo. You know what I'm saying? Like this this that that
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that one this ring I'm saying. He loved it. He already had it. So, let me ask you this in a in a
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different way. When I look at 5816 Forest and I see the album cover and you're sitting in front of that
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location, right? Yes. Yes. Yes. Um, we we've seen Eminem on the Marshall Mats LP. We've seen Jay Cole's Forest Hill
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Drive project. They did something similar. Yes. That's safe to say that that in Did any inspiration come from
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them? Not at all. Not at all. I wanted This is where I stayed from 12 to 17.
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You know what I'm saying? So, when I got the idea, I knew I wanted to be sitting on a stoop. JCole wasn't sitting on a
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stoop. He's sitting on a roof, I think, at night. That's right. You know what I'm saying? I don't remember the Ma Marshall Matters one. I think he had a
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house in the background or something. You know what I'm saying? I don't know if that was his real house or is it just something that you know I'm sizzling but
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um I wanted to be sitting on my front steps with clothes on I couldn't afford
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back then. I always wanted the LL Cooj Troop the red and white troop velour
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jacket that I you know got on and my black jeans. I couldn't afford the the the Jordan 3es back then. So, I said, I
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want to wear what the D boys wore back then with the Casey hat flipped up with
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all my chains and all my glory. I wanted to look like those looked on my block
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cuz DJ Juice lived right a house down from me. And they were the big- time dope dealers back in the 80s. You know
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what I'm saying? This is how they looked because we all watch hip-hop. We all
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love hip-hop. And that's what we seen on the record covers, but that's what we've seen LL Cooj wearing. You know what I'm
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sizzling and Run DMC with the chains. So I wanted to sit on my front step no
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matter who want to talk about their life as well. This is mine. Never want to
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copy nobody. There you go. Tech 9 is here, man. Original MC. Yeah. You go into your story. When I met Tech9 too
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and I went to Kansas City when I listened to the song RDV, right? And
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Road Dogs. What does the V stand for? Rogue Dog Villain. Rogue Dog Villain.
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And the Road Dogs are a collective of distinguished gentlemen from what area of Kansas City? Yeah. The 50s, man. You
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know what I'm saying? 55, 56, 57, 58 is
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where I was. Okay. And what streets did y'all have me on? We you you you were on Highland.
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They had me. You was on Highland. Yeah, man. You was on 56 in Highland. I was on 56 in Highland. But I got a lot of love.
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Yes, you did. Yes, you did. That's That's deep in the hood, too. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's That's the Blood neighborhood. Um, dudes from here
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moved from Kansas City. Oh, that's funny. I ain't even know Mugs back then.
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You know what I'm saying? This This is the early 80s. When you said that, he stood up straight. Yeah. 37th Street,
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Fruittown Brim from here moved in our neighborhood in the mid 80s. You know what I'm saying? From LA. They came They
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came to Kansas City, right? Yes. Yes. Some of our homeboys, they got they had family in Kansas City. So they they
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migrated to the 50s. Uhhuh. 5'6, 55, all that 5'7, you know, they, you know,
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turned it all red. Okay. After after a while. And that's why my stepfather was
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trying to protect me from all that by keeping me on punishment for messing up in school. Put keeping me on punishment
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for a whole summers. Yeah. You're just going to go to work with me and you're going to take out that trash? That's
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that's your outside. You know what I'm saying? And I thought he was being hard on me, but he was trying to keep me from
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that [ __ ] out there. Yeah. And you wrote about that. You got a song called Punishment on this album. The
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Punishment. Yes, I do. But but in the punishment as I matured throughout
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throughout life because at 17 we all we think we know everything. I told my mom
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I was like like in uh this I know. I told my mom I was going to Azidas for the Thanksgiving holiday and I took all
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these big bag of clothes and she really knew. She had a tear in her eye. You know what I mean? Uh we think we know
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everything at 17. But as I got older I realized that he wasn't being mean to me at all. He was trying to make me a
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stronger man. He was trying to make me an entrepreneur by taking me to um uh uh
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business seminars when I was 12 and 13. And I'm like, why is he dragging me to this? You know, I don't what is this?
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And they telling me it's a seminar. Say seminar. I didn't know what it was. You
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know what I mean? So all that what he was doing, he was trying to protect me from the gangs out there. He wanted me
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to do better in school, you know what I mean? So he kept me away from all that. And in the punishment, I said, "Without
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him, I wouldn't be the multi-millionaire I am today." Yeah. Thank you, Abul Hassan Rasul Khalifa, for your
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protection. That's your stepdad, right? Yes, it is. And he was Muslim. Yeah, he still is. He still is Muslim, right? And
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you grew up Christian, though, right? Yeah, I grew up Christian. My mom was a devout Christian and she married a Muslim when I was 12. So it was hard
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being Christian eating on Sundays and then when we get here and I get I'm 12 years old. No more pork, no more bacon,
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no more baloney, no more none of that. You know what I'm saying? Bean pies, everything. Making bean pies. It was a
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crazy transition. Uhhuh. But within that time from 12 to 17, I just felt like it was
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so hard on me. You know what I mean? So, and this I know, you know, my grade
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card, you know, Uh-huh. It came back and it was horrible. Your report card. My my
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report card. You know what I'm saying? He call it grade card. You know, he wasn't in school. That's what we called it too. Grade
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card. Midwest. You know what I'm saying? They grade you. You know, it's a grade card.
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Report card. Same thing. Okay. So, you know, he was, you know, he had his own business. So, he was counting money. I
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didn't want to show him my grade card. You know what I mean? But the teachers back then will call the crib. Oh my
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gosh. and let them know what's going on in school. So, I sat down at the table.
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He's counting money. You know what I'm saying? How's your day? I'm like, "It's okay. I'm scared as hell." You know what I'm saying? Cuz I know I got to show him
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this paper. I got I got some Fs on there. I got some C's on there, some D's on there. You know what I'm saying? Just
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really just kicking it in school, man. You know what I'm saying? Girls, everything. Skipping parties. It's all
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on the record. Yeah. And uh that phone call happened while he was counting his
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money and he's like and he's looking at me the whole time and I'm like I'm sweating bullets. He hang up the phone.
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He's like why? Why I got to why what are you doing? You know what I'm saying? And he had this money in his head. He's like
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you got to get right. He hit me in my head with a stack of money. You know what I'm saying? At that moment I said
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okay I got to get out of here. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Now it wasn't really bad that he did that. just get
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right. Can't get right. You know what I'm saying? I I'm tired of hearing from the school that you effing up. You know
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what I'm saying? So, uh that's when I got up out of there. But, you know, I
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really really evolved and I had my brother play him the song, The
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Punishment. And he said he was smiling the whole time and he said, "Tell Donnie," because
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that's my nickname. My middle name is Dantes. Tell Donnie I said thank you.
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And when my brother was leaving, he said, "Don't forget to tell Donnie I said thank you." You know, felt good to
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me, man. He said thank you. Yeah. I found resolve. Uhhuh. In this album. And that Thank you. You guys, can we pull up
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that punishment, man? All the songs produced by Jay Pezy, man. He did a wonderful job, man. Man,
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Jay Peasy put his foot in that. Let me add this though. You are incredible in terms of melody and hooks. I think a lot
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of times, man, people they struggle. The lyrics could be there, but the hook and
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the melody is not there. Not that you don't have a good song because you don't have a good hook and melody, but the
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hook it ties what ties it ties it all together. And man, you always bring it
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home with that. So, salute to you for that. Thank you, man. I attribute that to my mother and my family, man, for teaching me harmony early on and octaves
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and everything, man. And and rhythm at the at the at the at the lunch and dinner table. Yeah. Early stages,
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beating on, you know, with the forks and and the glasses. You know what I'm saying? They showed me that when I was
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like three and four, you know what I'm sizzling? And they put me in the sunshine band when I was young at Barker
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Temple Church of God in Christ. You know what I'm saying? To learn how to stay on key, you know, stuff like that. So, I I
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got to attribute that all to my family, man. My mama and them, man. Sounds good. What I like about Tech 9 is I'm finding
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out more about your story. Um, and you just mentioned the Church of God and Christ, you know, church, religion,
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these things come up. You know, you grew up Christian, your father was a Muslim. Yes. There was a point in time, we talked about this before, people thought
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you worshiped the devil. Yeah. That's crazy because um back then I used to get
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mad but then as I started reading and finding out the real origins of religion
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and this that and the other man um I knew that they were saying I was
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worshiping uh damn I shouldn't say this but don't say worshiping um other parables
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for evil and good in a book. You know what I'm saying? Okay. Okay. So
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the imagery of Tech 9 back then with the red spiked hair with the preachers's robe and the painted face.
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Our people are going to say, "Nigga, that ain't of God." You know what I'm
36:35
saying? But on the contrary, I'm angel. I am angel. You know what I'm saying? My
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mama called me angel, baby. I was sent down here to help people in need. You know what I'm saying? And I ended up
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doing music helping people in need of another perspective. So for people to
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say I'm a devil worshipper back then all I say is in the hood where they do that
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at. Yeah. You know what I mean? And how do we do that? You know what I'm saying? You you you switch everything that's
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Jesus with Satan. You know what I'm saying? I I' I've never done that and I've always said it in every song. You
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know what I'm saying? Even Devil Boy. I said they call me Devil Boy. They call me Devil Boy. And those who know me,
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they know that I am well annoyed. They call me devil boy. If you call me devil boy, you're gonna you're gonna burn in
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hell if you call me devil boy because I'm of God. You know what I'm saying? I have God energy. So a lot of people
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because of just because of the imagery. They said devil worshipper, but we don't
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do that in the hood, man. For clarity purposes, was it is was he your father or your stepf your mother's husband? Did
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that was my stepfather? She married a Muslim when I was 12. Okay. My father was out here in the 70s. LAPD. Okay.
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Carlton Cook. I just And he wasn't a Muslim. No. No. I got you. Okay. My actual My biological father was out
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here. You You How old is your youngest kid? Alina is 2 years old right now, man. I
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started over. You know, you know, you know, you know Aaliyah and Rain and Donnie. Yes. 30. 30. 31. Leah's about to
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be 31. Donnie is too. brain, who was my youngest, she's 26 now. So, as I'm
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evolving every day, healthier, remarried last year, you know what I'm
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saying? I've been with my lady for over 10 years. We got married in our 10th year last July. Um, I wanted to have a
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piece of that woman, you know what I'm saying? And she wanted to have I mean, and vice versa, you know, and uh now we
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got Alina D. Yates. Wow, congrats. Beautiful, man. She's on the project, too, right? Yes, she is, man. And if you
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listen to her skit, if you hear how h how hard I laughed because that was the
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first time I was on tour with uh Falling in Reverse last year and I had to get
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these skits done. So, I called her mama put her on the phone and I had never
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heard her say my name. Uhhuh. But I tried it because she was like, "Oh, hi." You know what I'm saying? I'm like,
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"Whoa, I'm getting all this." You know, I can't believe it. And I say, "Say Tech 9." She said, "Tech Nine." I'm like, "Oh
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my god." And I didn't know that she had been saying it while I was on tour. You know what I'm saying? Cuz my wife told
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me it's like when we when I take her out to the park, people recognize her from Facebook. You made her a star. You know
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what I'm saying? Is Techna your daddy? And she said, "Yeah." You know what I'm saying? She knows it, too. So, Alina, man, it's my heart, man. Wow.
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Congratulations, Alina. Can you say tech nine? Tech nine.
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That's my baby. I love you. Thank you. And she said that too.
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Byebye. She said check night. Tech night, man. I
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was so glad I captured that, man. That's amazing. One take, dog. You know what I'm saying? Like beautiful. And I I was
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like, that's like a gamble if you're going to get something, you know, and I got all that. Do you recommend Would you
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recommend for men who are are 45 and above or maybe even 50? Uh-huh. I'm in
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my 50s. You're in your 50s? I'll be I'll be I'll be I'll be 50. Yeah, I'm in my
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50s. You're in your I know. That's right.
40:35
He looked over the hill and was like, "No, let me just keep it right here. I'll just sit on the hill. I'm 50 plus
40:42
infinity." But but but but but if you're healthy Yes. And you're not
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putting [ __ ] in your body anymore. And you because of parasite cleanses,
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you don't put pork in your body anymore because you'll be putting it right back if you're drinking green juice instead
41:02
of liquor. You know what I'm saying? And you know, if you're doing these things in your 50s, why not, man? You know what
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I'm saying? Look at Alino and Robert Dairo. How old are they? Yeah. Oh, [ __ ]
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Century. Jesus. So, yeah. So, you Some people say that that's that's that's
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that's bad for the child because you're going to die soon and all of that, but come on, man. Creating life, man, is
41:27
what we're here to do, man. You know what I'm say? So, so you was you would be an advocate for somebody who's living
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right in your 50s if you choose to have a baby. Of course. Of course. If that's what you feel and you feel that woman
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and or you know I I did it. Why you grate to have a baby?
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[ __ ] It look it it's me and Tracy can carry on your legacy. It's different for men. Men can do it. Yeah, men can do it.
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You're you're in good shape, brother. Look at your skin. Everything, man. Yeah, I can tell when you came in there
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when I you first came in like damn. I'm thinking still look young. Oh man, thank you. I still are young. Thank you, man.
42:07
Look, you hear that, Heather? You can't go to the park with your kid, though. What do you mean? That's who your niece
42:12
will represent. I go all the time. Not you, T. I'm talking about him. Whatever, man. Let me take a few of these callers,
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man. Hold up, man. People have been waiting for a long time to talk to you. Um H Where is this guy at? He He was the
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guy who That was Brian. B. We got B on the line from Kansas City. B yesterday,
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right? Yeah. B. We told you to call back. You called back. We got him right here.
42:37
Hey, what's going on, Texas? This B from uh What's up? What's up? Oh, what's up, man? What's going on, baby? I was just
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telling about that world famous fish out here in Kansas City. We known for more than Exactly, man. It's all about Loot
42:49
Fies, man. That's my family, man. That's my family all day, man. Popping all over the city. Loot fees all day, all night.
42:55
Yo, Bee said that if I come there, I can get free food now because I know you. Exactly. And that's and that's a gift
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from Loot Fies. Yeah, that's a gift. That's the spot, huh? Yes, it is, man. Luffy's fees, man. If you in Kansas
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City, ask for pulling up. We pulling up. B, I told you I had you. You a super citizen, brother. In the morning,
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family. See you in Right. Um, Ricardo want to ask you a question. He's from the Southeast. Ricardo, what's your
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question? Hey yo, Chad, what's up? Um, this is Ricardo. I a little band called Psycho
43:25
Killers. I don't know if you remember this back from 2011.
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I can't really hear you, man, cuz your phone is disable. Yeah. Repeat.
43:35
Oh. All right. All right. Hold on. My bad. My bad. My bad. Um Uhhuh. All right. Can you hear me now? Can you hear
43:40
me now? Yeah. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. All right. Yo, what's up? This is uh Recorder. I represent a little band
43:47
called Psycho Co. I don't know if you remember us back in 2011. We gave you a shirt and everything and you were so
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kind enough to uh Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so very much for
43:57
doing that. For wearing that shirt the next day on our interview. That was dope. All day, man.
44:04
All right. So, the question is, yeah. Okay. Yeah. As a longtime fan, um, when
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are you ever going to put out that Kabash album? I see you doing all the cool things with Falling Reverse and
44:16
other rock bands. When is that Kabash album coming out? the Kabash album. The
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idea was to do this project with me, Chris Calico, and Dirty Worms from
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Austin, Texas. When it never came to fruition,
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I said I never wanted to do that without Dirty Worms or Chris Calico. Now, Chris Calico is on his own path. He's on a
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country tour right now. And uh Smack from Dirty Worms is still present. DJ
44:48
Smack, you know what I'm saying? We could do it at any moment, I'm sure. But I will not do Kabash without the
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original idea. You know what I'm saying? That makes sense to you. Uh, Ricardo, that makes perfect sense. I appreciate
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it. You're a citizen, brother. Scorpio loyalty in the morning. Okay, cool. Uh,
45:08
how is Chris Calico? Cuz he did go out on his own and he's good, man. He's good. He's good. He's He's happy. He
45:15
wanted he wanted to start his own label because he had no you know he had he he
45:22
had no stake in Strange Music but you know he's been a part of it for 20 years of those 25 years I mean for 19 years of
45:29
those 25 years and uh he said man I want to leave my kids something too man you know what I'm saying I got to leave a
45:35
legacy myself so I want to start my own label earouse and we said okay I still
45:41
wanted them to do shows with me though I'm like but you can still do the tech nine shows Right. And he's like, "No, man. I want to do my own and, you know,
45:48
just do everything my own." I said, "But we can still do shows, though, right?" Money. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, "No,
45:54
I need I need something different." And um he's doing it now. And uh he say he's
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happy and his family is happy. So that's all I ever wanted. There you go. Yeah. Come on. So you got to start like you
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did. Got to go through the lumps. Yes, sir. Struggle to the top. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. There you go. All right. Coach
46:13
Mooch, uh, what would you like to say? Hey, good morning, Sway. Hey, good
46:18
morning, Heather. How y'all doing? Hey, family. We we're doing great. Shout out to Tracy G2, too. Hey, don't forget uh
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this Coach Moos with co-host, the Pushy Head Boy, and I got my wife. We all
46:31
headed up to Chicago. My wife is here, Jacob is here, Sway, and my son Javian.
46:37
And so the question is is um tech also I ran into you a couple times over in Lake
46:43
Ladana also the house is still there with the pelican. Uh the question is
46:49
here's the question. Yeah I will get to that. And so uh me
46:55
and Jacob have did uh you did a couple collabs Casey Young Boss Shay Lyric as
47:02
well as um you shout out to Liu Kane. We did Liu Kane. Me and Jacob did the interview with Liu Kane as well as um
47:08
Shay L. We just finished that. But the question is on the new project and and
47:13
also moving forward, do you have any collabs with any Casey artist? And what do you what are your thoughts on maybe
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when you go out on the road it being a all KC uh family uh uh tour?
47:27
Yeah, that's dope, man. Um yeah, we do I do have KC artist on this album. This album is actually my origin story. So,
47:34
all the verses are done by me. No verses by nobody else. That's why I have only a hook from uh Lil Wayne. But Church, uh
47:42
Kevin Church Johnson is from Kansas City. He's my drummer. He's on there. Uh Chemology on the song What I Do, she's
47:48
from Kansas City. You know what I'm sizzling? So, on my origin story, I tried to keep it, you know, just really
47:55
minimal. But I've done things like this with the Gates Mix Plate where it's the majority KC artist. Um, I just did
48:03
another one, another collabos called Kazum before this record that had Shay
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Lyric on it. It had Roblo the star on it. Uh, Miss Cush, you know what I'm
48:15
saying? Everybody from my section, even Lil Ava is on it. You know what I mean?
48:20
Just all Kansas City love. So, I've always been tapping on it, man. You know what I'm saying? Uh, and uh, a tour. We
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would have to do a entire album. I see what you're saying. That's a good idea, brother. That's a good idea. Coach
48:34
Mooch, what's your wife name? She went to school with him. Yeah. Um, he called her little Rambo. She Rambo. Kiana
48:41
Rambo. Whoa. I remember the name. You call her your little god daughter.
48:48
Yeah, that's crazy. Wow. Yeah. My daughter. And so we're doing awesome,
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man. Um, I didn't want to She wants to say something as well. Hi. All right.
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What's up, mama?
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Yes. What's up to your whole family, Coach Mooch? Hey, we're definitely We
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got to wrap up, brother. Coach Mooch, I got to wrap it up. But we
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love you and your family, man. Tell the Suns we love them. They're doing great work. Your wife, you all are citizens, brother. That's way in the morning. All
49:23
right, man. Listen, Tech 9, we could go on. We going to have to do a part two. Maybe maybe Strange could fly fly
49:29
Heather Tracy and I the team to to Kansas City. We could do something from the compound. Let's do it. Let's do it.
49:35
Let's do it like we used to back in the day forecast from Kansas City. We've never done I just was saying I haven't
49:41
been to Kansas City. Oklahoma City. I haven't been. I would love to come. Maybe we'll do it around a show that we
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do around there. You know what I'm saying? Make it a big thing. You know, Tracy, you'll come if Absolutely. Count
49:53
me the hell in. Come on now. Let's go, Tracy. Um, this project is 5816 Forest.
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His origin story, Tech9. You will learn more about him in this project than probably any other project I've listened
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to. I've heard all his projects. Without Without Black Walt, this would not happen. He had the idea. And uh, I want
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to thank my brother Black Watt who gave me my name, Tech9 and 88. Man, this is a
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beautiful album, man. Wonderful body of work. Thank you, JPZY, and everybody involved. Thank you, Sway. Absolutely.
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Love you, brother. And um the song he has, the only real big feature he has on
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this project is Lil Wayne. Yes. Lil Wayne on the song Yoda. Yoda. How did that happen? Um X-rated always called me
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Yoda. Like a a Jedi lyrically. You know what I'm saying? So I thought that I would tell the story of me sitting on my
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steps, young man sitting on the front porch thinking how to get on a higher level of some sort, you know what I mean? Lyrically, and getting ciphers and
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all that kind of thing. I just felt like I was good when I started, you know what I mean? So Yoda is talking about being a
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Jedi lyrically. And I actually thought to do something weird and talk
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like Yoda and rhyme it is the hardest thing that I've ever done. Yeah. You
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know cuz cuz you know Yoda talks like backwards. Yeah. He talks backwards. Uh George Lucas had him talking backwards
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like a Jedi Skywalker is. You know what I'm saying? It's like that. So I had to like broke I am like how am I going to
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rhyme that? equivalent to a whopping 20 tons of pure dope, my gems. You know what I'm saying? I had to do the whole
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rap like Leotaa talks. And when I got at the end of the first verse, I'm like,
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why did I do this to myself? I got two more verses. This is horrible.
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So, it came together. I did it. Sent it to Wayne. He understood it. He did
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variations of the hook. I didn't have to tell him. He's such a musician. It's four hooks in the song. He did different
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variations of the hook. I kept them all, man. And uh now we have Yoda. And the video, Has it dropped yet? The video is
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dropping right now, citizens. You could go online. Go to wherever you go on
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YouTube. However you see videos, go online now. The video with Tech 9 and Lil Wayne is dropping as we speak. Yoda
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right now, baby. Yoda is out right now. Lil Wayne is incredible. Yes, he is. you
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know, and uh he's at forever cemented his legacy and his game all day. And he
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always shows Tech 9 love, man. What did he say to you? What does Wayne talk about, bro? We was on a video set. Mhm.
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And I'm thinking that because of the flow I'm doing in Yoda that nobody's going to tell I'm rapping backwards.
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Uhhuh. And uh I told him in between shots, I said, "Hey man, uh this song
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was a headache, man." He said, "Yeah, you're rapping backwards." I'm like, "Whoa, he's a alien. He gets it." Yes,
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he got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man. He got it. All right. Shout out to Lil Wayne, man. Tech9, I love you. Thank
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you, brother. I love you back. Mugs I love you. Yes, sir. Family. Okay. Your family. Tell Travis I love them. Yes, I
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will. Okay. What's your name again? Kate. Caitlyn. Caitlyn. Got a lot of love for you. Yes. Thank you, brother
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always. Absolutely. You too, Caitlyn. You part of a family here that I I really respect and hold dear. Thank you
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for coming through this morning. Thank you for having me, brother. Absolutely. Sure. I hope you enjoyed it, man. Yes, I did, man. I heard you talking with
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Angela about other stuff. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no. [Music]
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Yeah. All right. Listen. We gonna end with Yoda.
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