0:00
Yeah, man. That's our guest right now,
0:02
Heather B. As you so eloquently
0:04
described who she is, but can you break
0:07
it down a little bit more? We met her.
0:10
We met her um across actually uh here at
0:13
SiriusXM Studios, we work across the
0:16
street from a store we often frequent
0:17
called Sprouts. And we go in there, we
0:20
get our fruits, we get our water, we we
0:22
grab different snacks. And one day I was
0:25
approached uh didn't realize Sway had
0:27
been approached as well citizens by a
0:30
beautiful queen who said to me, "You
0:33
look like Heather B."
0:36
And I was like, "I know because I'm
0:38
her." She said, "Oh my gosh, really?"
0:40
And gave me the warmest hug and um you
0:43
know, explained to me a little bit about
0:45
her history and what she did. Explained
0:48
that not only was she a poet, but an
0:50
artist as well. And so when she broke
0:53
down what she did in terms of how she
0:55
represented her art and started to pull
0:58
up some imagery, I was just blown away.
1:00
And she said, you know, I would like to
1:01
gift a jacket to you and Sway. Who would
1:05
you like on your jacket? And I was like,
1:07
all right, Harriet Tubman, you know,
1:09
that's who lives inside of me. And she
1:11
said, well, can you reach out to Sway
1:13
and find out who would he like? And of
1:15
course I know Sway he always shares with
1:17
us that Muhammad Ali uh was one of the
1:20
first people he ever wrote a story on
1:22
even in grade school. This is true. This
1:24
was someone who he looked.
1:26
Yeah. And so the connection and the
1:29
relationship was built from there. Um
1:31
and then the rest is history. So much so
1:34
after she gifted us our jackets, it was
1:37
only right that we wanted SU's universe
1:39
and our citizens and the world to see
1:41
her beautiful art. So, we welcome to the
1:43
show today poet girl Ronnie.
1:48
Thank you. Thank you guys. Thank you.
1:50
How y'all doing? Hey, excellent. Blessed
1:51
to be here. Blessed to have you as well.
1:53
And I want to read some of her
1:54
accolades, Tracy. So, to put it in
1:56
perspective because Ronnie was breaking
1:58
it down to me while I was when you met
2:00
When I met her, I had some fruit, you
2:03
Yeah. You never have a bag.
2:04
Yeah. I don't have a bag. I'm carrying
2:06
fruit and and pressed juices in my hand.
2:09
And then then I was like, "Well, tell me
2:11
about your poetry." And so I'm just
2:13
going to read. Her original poetry was
2:15
recited by the singer Brandy and other
2:18
cast members on the TV show Moisha.
2:25
In 1995, she headlined a House of Blues
2:28
um show with the legendary Pam Greer as
2:33
Um Okay. Um she's also did Poetry Night
2:37
with Magic Johnson. You used to do
2:39
with Magic Johnson, Starbucks, Shark
2:43
Yeah, she's done it all. And so when we
2:47
like a modern-day poets like a J Ivy or
2:50
someone who you who recently went a
2:52
Grammy awards, Black Eyes, you know,
2:56
Yeah, exactly. I love her.
2:59
And you think of De Poetry Jam and and
3:02
the work that it did was exposing this
3:05
beautiful art form called poetry. She
3:07
was right there and she was there before
3:10
and so here she is today and she's an
3:13
artist by every means multiaceted. I'm
3:16
I'm literally wearing the jacket that
3:18
she made for me and I wear it all the
3:20
You wear it all the time. I wore mine
3:22
out to Philly for the roots picnic. I I
3:24
wore mine and as well and got so many
3:29
Welcome Ronnie to the show. Okay,
3:31
welcome to the show. How do you say is
3:34
poet Ronnie girl poet Ronnie girl and
3:37
that's what people follow you right
3:38
yes yes poet Ronnie girl brand
3:41
brand you know what I'm saying you make
3:44
thank you and it's army couture my mom
3:46
and dad were military
3:48
so I'm an army brat and um I'm wearing
3:51
um along my niece we're wearing what's
3:52
called the jump girl 3 I 3 I3 I also and
3:55
it's a jump bar I did for Trey you know
3:57
we come keep on pass me by I did a
4:00
for far side so it's at. So basically
4:03
what for me my family is from the south
4:05
so the fabric I use majority is from
4:07
Ghana so I'm representing quilts so I'm
4:10
half Louisiana half um Mississippi so
4:13
what I encourage people like by the
4:14
grace of God being here we just um ran
4:16
into Germaine Dri Arnold the
4:18
photographer you guys going to hear
4:19
about he's legendary we hooked up so
4:22
we're going to be doing a legacy jacket
4:23
for him so what I do is encourage people
4:26
not just artists to put your family
4:28
members dust those boxes off put your
4:31
family it's like we got your back, you
4:33
know, and like my nephew um DJ, we have
4:35
a shop on Slawson and it's we're
4:38
blackowned on Slawson. So we and DJ
4:40
designs all the shirts for the like we
4:44
we're doing a jacket for horse, but he
4:45
it's got to be New York driven. So my
4:47
main thing is we're telling people, we
4:49
want to tell our history, especially
4:51
what's going on in the world now and
4:52
people trying to erase us. And that's
4:54
why with your jacket, we will not be
4:58
current administration, we're not going
4:59
to be erased. I didn't even look at it
5:01
Oh, no. We will not be erased. We're
5:04
I was born in Mississippi in 1961. So,
5:06
you know, I don't play that, right?
5:09
Just like quilts, you know, a lot of
5:11
messaging was put into quilts. And
5:14
that's how we were reading ways
5:16
uh we to navigate through quilts.
5:19
Interesting enough that you put it in
5:21
that perspective. We shall not be
5:22
erased. We're going to we're going to
5:24
preserve our heritage and teach it into
5:27
the future. And this is what makes
5:28
Arnold Arnold Turner so important um as
5:32
one of the most legendary
5:34
um photographers, documentarians that I
5:37
know. You know, we celebrate a lot of
5:39
people like Ernie P right on the East
5:42
like we celebrate Johnny Nunez and
5:44
different folks. Love Johnny.
5:47
Ronnie Wright from back in the day.
5:50
Of course, Ronny's a boy. Love Ronnie
5:53
Wright. Incredible. Well, here we got
5:56
Arnold shoots. We got Arnold T who on
5:58
the west coast when me and King Tech
6:00
first came down uh from the Bay to LA
6:03
that that man was right there. We were
6:06
doing so many concerts and
6:08
so many events and projects and and you
6:12
it's it's it's amazing that we are
6:15
sitting here talking about the era that
6:16
we lived in that was iconic
6:18
and and we are still here. The '9s was
6:22
in LA. LA the '9s was like
6:25
Arnold did everybody. Arnold did my
6:27
shoot with the original Fly Girls, Josie
6:29
and those guys for Happy Napp you were
6:30
30 years ago with Big Les.
6:32
I mean Arnold's done everybody.
6:34
Big L went on to host that BET, right?
6:38
Arnold did early Aaliyah. You got some
6:40
of the most beautiful pictures of
6:42
Aaliyah ever captured.
6:44
I love working with Aaliyah. Aaliyah was
6:46
was phenomenal to work with. She was
6:48
just so brilliant, so lively, so much
6:50
fun. She was always so much fun, lively,
6:54
and she was just a brilliant, beautiful
6:58
Now, you were a store manager before you
7:02
Come on, Arnold, man. Don't do this to
7:05
You know, since since you last saw me,
7:07
I'm we're in the Hall of Fame.
7:11
Yes, you are. As you should be. Should
7:15
So, um, so yes. So when I came to
7:17
California, you know, photography was a
7:20
was a hobby. Coming from Massachusetts,
7:22
it was a hobby. I always had a camera in
7:24
my hand. Uh but when I came to Los
7:26
Angeles, I had to get a job. So, you
7:28
know, you come out here, you like LA and
7:30
you go, "Okay, this is where I want to
7:32
be." But you got to get a job. So, I got
7:34
a job at Warehouse Warehouse Records.
7:36
And um I work very close work very
7:39
closely with Violet Brown.
7:40
Violet Brown. Violet Brown. Violet Brown
7:43
was responsible for everybody's music
7:46
being put in the warehouse chain.
7:48
People performing all around
7:49
LA. U so I had Fox Hills. It's
7:52
technically store number 59. I was the
7:54
store manager for Fox Hills.
7:56
And um we got invited. This is amazing
7:59
story, but we got invited to a listening
8:01
party for Jenna Jackson's Dream Street
8:04
album when she was a little girl cuz she
8:06
was on Good Times. She was on a bunch of
8:07
shows, but you know, she had a
8:09
recording. Jesse Johnson produced the
8:12
&M hosted a listening party for her. I
8:14
took my camera just for fun. I happened
8:18
to take some pictures at the party with
8:19
my store staff, her and some of the&M
8:23
Um, couple of days later, the&M rep
8:26
comes by the store and says sees my
8:28
pictures cuz I had put them up on the
8:30
wall in the store just to, you know,
8:32
have conversation with guests and
8:33
customers that, you know, we were at a
8:35
Janet Jackson party, you know. So, that
8:37
was a big thing. You were stunned. Yeah.
8:42
So, uh, uh, make a long story longer,
8:45
um, the&m rep said, "My god, oh my god,
8:48
can we can we use these pictures? I need
8:50
to take them back to publicity because
8:52
we had a photographer at the party and
8:55
uh, his pictures didn't come out.
8:56
Something happened with his camera." So,
8:58
these are the only pictures that we have
9:01
&M used the pictures, ran them in and
9:04
trade magazines and from there all the
9:07
other uh record representatives saw the
9:10
pictures in the trades. Wow.
9:11
And they said, "I didn't know you were
9:12
store you were a photographer. I thought
9:14
you were a store manager."
9:16
So now you know the rest of the story.
9:18
All the record promoters, all the you
9:20
know, all the cats that we know
9:22
put me on, gave me job opportunities to
9:25
go around with their artists around LA,
9:27
the different radio stations, you know.
9:30
um you know KAC back in the day, Kday,
9:36
but even before the beat there was, you
9:38
know, KGLH and um it was always a
9:42
customary for an artist to come when
9:44
they came into LA to do a radio tour.
9:46
Yeah. And it was always customary and
9:49
important to do photos with, you know,
9:51
um the morning jock, um the program
9:54
director, the music director of the
9:55
radio station, and sometimes the artists
9:57
would come in afternoon drive and so we
9:59
would do photos, you know, with with
10:01
that uh jock that was on the air. So it
10:03
was customary. So legendary. So it was
10:06
we did this for years. Um so I got, you
10:09
know, got to work with a lot of major
10:13
And you caught them when they weren't
10:15
Exactly. when they first came out and
10:17
then um we you know captured and
10:19
documented their story while they were
10:21
Y'all can follow him at Arnold Shoots,
10:23
right? Is that that's your Instagram,
10:25
right? Wow. Give that man a round of
10:27
applause. When Ronnie told me she told
10:29
me she knew you saw my reaction, right?
10:32
I told I said he should be your
10:36
I'm like, you ain't telling me something
10:38
I don't know. I've been Arnold been
10:39
shooting everybody. And like I said, I
10:41
was blessed to have him shoot part of my
10:43
Happy Nappy campaign. And it's like
10:45
Arnold, I mean we remember B urban
10:47
network that and back then
10:49
he's been he's been the rapper. We were
10:53
And that's when they didn't have
10:54
pop-ups. Like I tell people, we invented
10:56
popups and Instagram cuz Rosco's Chicken
10:58
and Waffles was our Instagram. We'll be
10:59
popping up in there, posted up all day
11:02
long, putting our flyers in the menus.
11:04
But it's such a trip because how the
11:06
world has evolved, but we've all still
11:09
the original like the Spikeley's, the
11:12
all that stuff. It's like it's still so
11:15
relevant now because like I did used to
11:16
I did another thing I did is I used to
11:19
do the marketing for Boys in the Hood. I
11:21
remember when I met with Colombia
11:22
because my friend Melissa was his
11:24
assistant. They asked me well how much
11:25
cuz they didn't want to send their um
11:28
interns into the hood to go promote Boys
11:30
What? The white interns.
11:34
There was a pause. I didn't understand
11:36
what the pause was. They were like, cuz
11:37
they were like, well, we need to um have
11:39
people promoted in the um hood and um
11:43
well, what is your rate? And I remember
11:44
Melissa was kicking me under the table
11:45
cuz I was going to say 500. And she was
11:48
looking at their budget sheet and she
11:49
said, "Oh, Ronnie, I need to talk to you
11:50
real quick." I went outside. She said,
11:52
"You say 2500." I went 2500. And they
11:55
paused like, "Oh, that's it. They made
11:57
paid me $2,500." I was posted up in the
12:00
hip-hop clubs. I'd be at Roscos. Y'all
12:02
meet me. I'd be like, "Okay, I had to
12:04
post up from Roscos. $2,500 a day just
12:07
to go in the hip-hop clubs to promote
12:09
the movie Boys in Hood and give out
12:10
t-shirts. We travel with Court of
12:12
Justice. Same thing.
12:14
Wow. I mean, that's a lick. Now,
12:16
you seen the viral that's going around
12:18
right now. You know, Rick Ricky's
12:19
memorial service. They're posting that
12:21
they're posting that little memorial
12:23
that Ricky That's cracks me. Yeah. When
12:27
Ricky got shot Boys in the Hood, you
12:28
know, like the thing that they give out
12:30
the funerals that's everywhere.
12:32
That's on That's on Instagram right now.
12:40
30th annual 30th 30th anniversary of the
12:45
I'm I'm really impressed of how like you
12:48
you're you're multiaceted. You don't do
12:51
And I tell people like I'm working on a
12:52
documentary and I know it's long but
12:53
it's called the born to hustle the
12:55
ballad of port. Ronnie girl been there
12:57
done that. I mean back in the day Pat
12:59
Tobin rest in peace was my play aunt.
13:01
Did the marketing for school days. So, I
13:03
remember the first pop-up we did up
13:05
north and we had all the school days and
13:07
she's Got a Habit t-shirts. We sold out.
13:10
I sold the She's Got a Habit off my
13:12
back, one of the frats cuz I'm a aka ski
13:14
to all my sores. But anyway, they bought
13:17
the shirt off my back.
13:18
The She's Got to Habit. We used to do
13:20
pop-ups at Fairfax High School. We would
13:22
have New Edition, Belle, Biv, and VO and
13:24
everybody there. I'd had Tracy John's
13:26
all the school days cast there selling
13:28
t-shirts. I'd be like, "She'll um sign
13:30
your autograph if you spend $200." I
13:32
mean, I was a pimp for sure.
13:35
Ronnie, sound like you still pimping.
13:38
my hustle is unmatched.
13:39
No, I believe it. Now, one of the
13:41
reasons we wanted to bring you here is
13:43
we want to make people aware of these
13:46
You know, I was um having a conversation
13:48
with with some friends of mine who were
13:51
overseas and they were purchasing a lot
13:53
of expensive clothes with bigname
13:57
and I was saying why not invest in you
13:59
know people from the community who did
14:01
you tell the exact truth what happened.
14:05
I was facetiming our colleague who
14:08
happened to be shopping in London. They
14:11
were in Louis Vuitton and they were
14:14
purchasing things and we were facetiming
14:17
and asking my opinion on you know
14:20
something to purchase. This guy pops in
14:23
the background with the the with the
14:26
worker there and his colleague as well
14:28
as said, "Why don't y'all start
14:30
investing in black things?"
14:34
That's exactly what happened.
14:36
In the store while this man was about to
14:38
get his commission, Sway, who this guy
14:42
is like, "He already made it. Why you
14:44
trying to stop my hustle?"
14:46
Why don't you buy black?
14:49
see nothing. That's why I didn't want to
14:51
bring up names. I didn't want to play
14:53
Tell the truth and shame the devil. You
14:55
have to tell the truth.
14:56
But but but but when I look at these
14:57
clothes that that that Ronnie has made,
14:59
these are incredible. Like it's
15:01
original. There's not one outfit.
15:03
Mon'nique has one on. Your nephew has
15:05
one on. I have my jacket.
15:06
Heather has her jacket here. I have my
15:07
jacket. And all of them have their own
15:10
And the thing is they're stories. It's
15:12
wearable art. And my thing is I've done
15:13
jackets for people where their um maybe
15:16
their son or daughter has passed away.
15:18
And so I'm honoring them. I had one lady
15:20
that her she had the last picture of her
15:22
mother holding her son's hand and we
15:24
called it grandma's hand. So we designed
15:26
that and people will often give me
15:28
pieces of fabric from their family
15:29
member to intertwine or their own
15:31
certain African fabric. So it's
15:33
important that telling our stories right
15:35
now we got to preserve our history and
15:38
instead of having in the box put them on
15:40
your back. Arnold has we did a jacket
15:42
for Mara Gibbs. I saw when um Wendy was
15:45
talking about Marley
15:45
Tisha Campbell and Wendy Rockel Robinson
15:47
came on they were talking Mara G
15:49
and the thing is with the Mar I want to
15:50
give her her flowers too because I was a
15:52
part of that L Mer Park legacy Marley
15:54
have a celebrity fashion show and back
15:55
then you know I'm still young black
15:57
don't crack but I was a young hip
15:59
those people around the world l Mer Park
16:01
is an area on the Crenshaw district that
16:03
is a you know predominantly
16:04
African-American um area yes it's like
16:06
Harlem and it's called Mer Park Mer Park
16:09
and so Mara would have a celebrity
16:10
fashion show that's when she had her
16:12
school that Wendy was talking about. So
16:13
I would they would have me they'd have
16:15
the older designers and then I had like
16:16
Regina and Raina King were my models.
16:18
Rick James Jr. and Tina Jones, Quincy's
16:21
daughter. So that was I mean we could go
16:23
on comedy act theater Robin Harris I was
16:26
there the night that Martin first
16:28
performed and people were like okay no
16:30
you're not wearing them shoes. So L
16:32
Mertz got his own history.
16:34
I mean I it could go on and on and on. I
16:36
mean, and the importance of people they
16:38
hear the people they hear about people
16:40
talking about Roscoll's Roscoll's
16:42
chicken and waffles on Gower was an
16:45
important you would be sitting there and
16:47
you'd get up to go and they say, "Oh, so
16:48
and so from Warner Brothers just paid
16:50
your meal or you know so and so it was a
16:53
It was a it was it was our black church.
16:55
Where you came for meetings. If you were
16:57
going to the Urban Network with Scott
16:59
Galloway, whatever whatever you came to
17:01
Rosco's I live down the street. I
17:03
remember when one of my friends used to
17:05
work for Quincy and that's how I first
17:06
got my stuff on Fresh Prince. She said,
17:08
"Quincy's got a new show called Quincy
17:10
Jones." Quincy Jones.
17:11
So I said, "I'm not a first name bas.
17:16
I used to do the merchandising for them,
17:17
too." Okay. Been there, done that. So I
17:19
ran down to Sunset Gower, took my
17:21
designs, and again, we had people that
17:22
were the different color that were the
17:25
um stylist for the show. So they weren't
17:26
used to our color of people and what we
17:28
do. So they were like, "Well, we need
17:30
some African fabric." You know, being
17:32
the pimp that I am, they said, "Well," I
17:34
said, "You got to go to L Mer." They
17:35
said, "Is it safe?" I said, "Not
17:37
really." So, and they said, "How much is
17:39
a yard?" I said, "75." This is in the
17:42
'9s. It's not 75 a yard now.
17:46
But you you have to tell people where
17:47
they where they can find your brand. So,
17:49
Oh, poor Ronnie girl brand. I'm P O E T
17:52
R O N I G I R L Brand. B R A N D. And be
17:56
on the lookout for the relaunch of Happy
17:58
to Be Nappear. Happy Nappy. I just ran
18:01
across somebody bootlegging and I had to
18:03
shut them down. So trust it's going to
18:05
Okay. I want to give out that platform.
18:07
Citizens, listen. If you want some
18:09
original garb and they she makes it
18:12
based on your inspiration.
18:14
Go to her platforms. Once again, it's
18:17
I make it with my black hands.
18:19
P O E T R O N I G I R L. Brand. All one
18:24
Say it all one word. Say it.
18:26
Poet Ronnie girl Brand
18:28
really quickly. She has a gift for you,
18:32
Nephew, get on camera.
18:33
Get on camera over there.
18:35
Are you ready for this? You have your
18:36
eyes closed. Open your eyes.
18:37
This is the person that makes the magic.
18:39
And we have niece, my niece over there.
18:41
Monique, get in the camera. Show him the
18:42
back of your jacket. She looks amazing.
18:44
Monique is wearing Nipy cuz you know
18:46
Let's move those chairs. Arnold, maybe
18:48
you can take pictures, too. Arnold, you
18:49
want to take pictures of those?
18:50
So, we have a business called Custom
18:52
Global Prints on Sloin. But Tracy, you
18:55
I'm ready. You ready? Tracy, are you
18:57
ready? You ain't ready. Tracy ain't
18:59
I'm playing. I'm ready. Hit me with it.
19:06
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
19:08
Tracy G, look at that old Tracy.
19:11
It's her theme, too.
19:12
Wow. Wow. That's beautiful.
19:15
Ronnie, thank you so much. Citizens, I
19:17
will be posting this, but to let you
19:18
know, I had chose so recently. I've been
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feeling very drawn to
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Hey guys, we're live on air.
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conversations in one. Yeah. So, so I've
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been really drawn to indigenous African
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religion specifically um Euroba and so
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there is a dominant revered Oisha which
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is Oshun and she is lauded as the
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goddess of love of abundance of rivers
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diplomacy healing. And for anyone who's
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watched Beyonce's lemonade documentary,
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that have might been an entry into
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learning about Oshune because she
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embodies both sweetness and power. And
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that dichotomy is so important to me as
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a woman. And so it's incredible that I'm
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able to wear her history as well cuz
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that's very important. So thank you
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Ronnie. Exquisite job. I will be rocking
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And if you run into Trey from Far Side,
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he has a Oune jacket as well. So y'all
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got to get together and photo up. And I
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also did a dope jacket for Doodlebug
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from Digable Planet. So y'all got to
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Okay, man. Ronnie, I want to thank you
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for coming by this morning.
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Crazy. Thank you. And thank you. I want
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to thank Sprouts from I'm a Sprouty.
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That's my day job. You know, I am a
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pimp, but I'm also a cashier. So y'all
20:38
can check out the sister. I am the
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sister. Look from check selfch
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checkckout sister to self checkout
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All right. I love it, man. Arnold, you
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And you got to come back up anytime.
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We're in LA now, man. We got Will I AM
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tomorrow. You want to come back up?
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Sounds good. Sounds good.
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Let me know. I got some people for you
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that want to come on. They're like, "Do
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you know Swear?" I said, "Yeah, I do."
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I was using bragging rights, man.
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As you should. We go. We go three days,
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Come on, bro. We are here, man.
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I'm going to bring you some good people.
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So, bring me some folks icons like she
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brought me. I'm going to bring some
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people. There you go. And thank you to
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Thank you. Thank you. And Tracy, I can't
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wait to meet you. Thank you guys.
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Thank you, Sprouts. I
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I need 3 days off with pay. Okay.
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You keep saying their name. We going to
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Ronnie, look out for the cookout.
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Okay. Okay. All right. Who?