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30 Years of The Shining: Smif-N-Wessun Reflect 🎤🔥 | SWAY’S UNIVERSE
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Feb 26, 2025
Celebrate 30 years of "The Shining" with Smif-N-Wessun on Sway In The Morning! 🌟 The legendary duo reflects on their iconic debut album, their evolution in hip-hop, and the journey leading to their latest project, "Infinity." From sharing untold stories about the early days of their career to honoring the culture that shaped them, this heartfelt conversation dives into brotherhood, resilience, and the power of music. Join the discussion as they open up about personal struggles, triumphs, and staying true to their roots while continuing to inspire generations. Don’t miss this exclusive interview featuring Smif-N-Wessun’s insights into their creative process, collaborations with 9th Wonder and The Soul Council, and their commitment to preserving hip-hop’s legacy. Subscribe to Sway’s Universe for more exclusive interviews, timeless hip-hop moments, and inspiring stories. #SmifNWessun #30YearsOfTheShining #InfinityAlbum #SwayInTheMorning #HipHopLegacy #SwaysUniverse #BrooklynLegends Tune in to Sway’s Universe and experience the passion, wisdom, and authenticity of Smif-N-Wessun as they celebrate their incredible journey and look toward the future of hip-hop. 🔥 #traploreross #grandmastercaz #rap #hiphop #smifnwessun #djevildee #generalsteele #9thwonder #stephenking #bucktown CHAPTERS: 01:33 - DJ Premier & Buckshot Relationship Evolution 04:12 - Connection Between 'The Shining' & 'Infinity' 10:46 - 20th Anniversary Celebration of 'The Shining' 15:22 - The Soul Council Overview 16:19 - Smith & Wesson's Global Impact 20:53 - Redman Announces Sobriety Journey 24:45 - Maintaining Long-Lasting Brotherhood 31:36 - Ferg Dole Discussion 33:00 - Jessica Ramos Insights
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yeah yeah let's take them back let's take them back tear to my eyes man let's
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take them back come on man let's give these
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brothers a standing ovation celebrating the 30e anniversary of The Shining 30 years and strong in the game and they
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still growing we got the one and only Smith and Wesson is in the
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building 30 years in the game man 30 years man I had this I had to shock
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y'all that was when y'all came on the Wake Up Show in 1999 see wow
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I 1999 and the the thing I left out was that's the time y'all Cipher we had
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y'all Cipher with him and them oh that was when it was uh what was going on at that after that was The Lyricist Lounge
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tour no no that well that might have been the tour but you was on me and Tech show right right right there was a lot
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of rappers in the in the town that that at that time yeah we brought y'all in on the y' was still Coco Brothers feel yeah
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man now we know when we came to your show we had to come prepared man you caught us out there man that was a good
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one that was a good one I love it man come on man feel like I just accepted award and forgot my my award
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speech you know what you give it now man what's your award spe this listen 30
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years in the game congratulations for being one of the most solid groups in Hip Hop that's your award you like to
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say appr I would say briefly if I may thank you guys you cuz cuz when we came
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out with the boot camp with black moon Drew High we would come to Cali and you would show us love you and your brother
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would show us love it was difficult to get to the radio stations everybody wanted to get a ticket right and you you
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had to have good stuff quality stuff and then you know your politic game and and your relationships was important so it's
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good to be here 30 years later and our relationship is still intact we can come to the table with some with some solid
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product and you know we can party together we can party together man it's beautiful 30 years later right and then
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we different now you know we we evolve men now and and I can look at y'all man
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and I see I tear up too you know teken I we communicate all the time and I I get
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off our communication to go damn man this is crazy man like the energy you
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feel the energy man would a tech say to a
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tech that's what you know the love is organic man this is we've grown this
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it's only 30 years in the music so it's another 10 added on since we've been
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brothers and friends and it's just really amazing it's amazing did you have
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hip hop would take it this far no come on man I mean we we were still like we
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we felt you know I mean even to this day we still feel the the youthfulness you know we our first time going to to the
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West Coast all we had was the movie colors you know I mean so you know what we was looking for but then when you hit
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the Bay Area and you start finding people that's like kind of like like like in Brooklyn you see people like
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zenobi and she got all her sister crew over there and you you partying with them it's like I I feel very comfortable
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here you know so um hip hop has been very good to us it's been it's it's cruel it's a Cru cold world out there
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but we have learned some things and we that's what we want to bring and share through Infinity that's what up man and
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that's the name of the new project is infinity man when you look uh when you think back 30 years ago to the lp The
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Shining Round of Applause when I say that celebrated the anniversary last month you know um and then you look in
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comparison to this album Infinity man I brought this this um example up recently we were talking about uh growing up
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being becoming a writer you know and in in grammar school and English class A teacher used to tell me the same way if
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you the the way the way to write a proper sentence or tell a proper story is the first uh paragraph rather the
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first sentence in the paragraph would actually be in continuity with the last sentence in the paragraph right and so
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your first album was the shiny right and how is it in continuity with this new
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album Infinity that's that's a that's a great setup right there 30 years that's
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something you can't just jump out and answer that that's what you got to think of but I think the shining for us man we
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were such kids and babies getting into the game cuz before us none of our
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friends was in the game to come back and report to us what was going on in the industry or who would be at these type
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of parties so we knew nothing of that and I think The Shining was like our
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sunrise and infinity would be making a complete rotation around the Sun right
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now so it's just like you said growing up learning lessons learning fatherhood
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learning friend learning relationships and just being able to feel this way about something new
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after 30 years it's a it's a accomplishment and amazing man y'all should be proud man proud of yourself
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salute to Mr wall and evil D um like Mr Walt uh conditioned us for the studio he
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got us ready for the studio and um being a fly on the wall in the sessions with with black moon of course had us you
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know battle tested for that other than that we brought our street credibility to to the booth and it was accepted by
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the people so just being able to walk on these Bing blocks and do that that's the big payment for us you know but of
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course we felt like at some point you lose a little bit of your spirit your win get knocked out all of this trauma
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and drama that goes on in the hip hop and then when we look at each other it's like all right but we still here yeah all right so how can we manifest that
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and and and and show our gratitude cuz we not here because it's just us you know what I'm saying oh praise be the
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the most high Creator and to the queen that support us all the time M I love that man and to the
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Queens love that you said that man that's Infinity right there that's team
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you know I mean wow but that but that's I love that you say that cuz hip hop has
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uh rap has gotten I say rap has gotten such a bad rap ra is out of control yeah
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right when it comes to how we represent women or how we speak about women and what contexts women are um are chosen on
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U spoken about but you you put them on yeah well if you say your wisdom but if
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you deal with that in that context if you say rap then you can expect it coming from the least form because that's how people going to say hey let
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me rap to you let me chat with you when you when you're dealing with something that's so powerful as hip-hop as a culture like we have we eat off this
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like sust this off the land like Johnny Rambo for real we have shown and proven that we can take something and and we
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can make something from nothing and you know once we once we get a hold of that's and that was the first part of us
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that's the first disc right that's the first three that's the first Cipher the other Cipher is where we God say peace
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of the nation and Gods of Earth when they say build or destroy right when you look at the infinity sign flip to the
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side that's the eight you we skating through life we we going through these obst boy bad look at
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them boy B I've been thinking about it when I wake up and I see Tech and I'm like wow what other Duos is rocking
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right now yeah bro like right now like just pushing forward I see certain Duos that's out there that we respect and we
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always Hil up but some have lost their partners like in a physical form and others just dealing with the the the
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currents of the industry and like we really have each other and how can we say thank you to the world and how can
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we apologize to those that we heard on the way up it's nothing personal but we had to make these moves like we we was
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taught a certain way we was conditioned a certain way in the 90s so we was just kind of rapping but we was we was around
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some good people and we had such love and that passion for the game so he was able to give something so if you listen
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to the shineing we was talking about relationships we wasn't talking about getting we talking about staying out of trouble watch the people that's around you not
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trying to go out like the best to be not trying to go out like the rest to be the best just to get r f off my chest nothing less we talking about being
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stressed out as adolescence then you know what I mean and then 30 days later and when you look back at it what have
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you learned we learned that we can get through the the the fire we can get through the storm to rise like the
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Phoenix cuz we show improving yeah you know I mean we lost a lot of people last year and look at us now we still strong
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we start seeing faces and all these uh these Services you know what I mean we lost people that's close to all of us
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and so all of us had to mourn every last one of us some we tough hip hop teaches us to be tough teach us to be brutal
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what you say we always especially in New York we always combed we always competitive you know what I mean so now
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we can compete in a healthy realm we don't got to tear each other down you know I mean we can still battle rap you
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know what I mean salute the LL CJ by the way y I like this FL still told me man
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you had LL up here LL was going bonkers on it you kidding me LL was going boners
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is the original goat speak on that man we we we just had this convers I was trying to put in context CU a lot of
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folks weren't there when LL you know hit the scene and the LL was everything to
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Hip Hop you know even his album covers was crazy black panther with the dooky gold cable on yeah I mean I know I know
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the feeling of like we was just talk having this conversation about being left out a c joints even though those
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lists may not matter to us but you get into this because you want to be accepted by your peers and
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when being a kid still in high school running home to get LL and hear pink
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cookies in a plastic bag and you like Dam Kane LLG rap is was was happening
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here but LL is I think he's he's definitely a gym that we need to protect yeah he's a gold in the Raptors like
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it's some people beyond your list oh my God you know what I mean like how you
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going you can't marginalize LL to a list and that's just like music certain I
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know certain MCS to redo another MC record I think it's certain joints that should just not be touched which ones
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anybody I mean probably the whole big albums there's a lot of them there's uh
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no one could redo a a Public Enemy Chuck D that's true it's a lot and for us I
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would say like a sound boy as those you know some of my my peoples might s me yo get the reverse on it uh I ain't going
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to curb you as bad as I would but it's just certain joints you just need to leave and let let let that rock out let
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that rock I'mma play one from The Shining right now and then we going to dig into the new album as well 888 742
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3345 Smith and Wesson is in the building year anniversary of The Shining hey yes
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we're celebrating the new release of infinity happy Infinity day everybody out here
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brilliant album that was put together and uh by Smith and Wesson and then also our good friend ninth Wonder in his
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Collective yes the soul coun the soul Council right but when that
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particular track was recorded Buck town but what can you remember about that man what the studio session you know what
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y'all I think initially before we got to the studio we was in we recorded that in the house right kitchen what do you mean
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by that y'all recorded we was cooking in the kitchen literally literally yeah because all right some uh uh what's I
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want to say Bucktown was a throwaway beat that we picked up no that was sound booy it wasn't the first it wasn't the
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first it wasn't the first help the Scout didn't and want the sound boy sing they was like we were like oh S I think the
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first I think one of the first joints was was less get it on and it was a different beat nothing move but the
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money right and then yeah nothing move but the money we had that one we couldn't clear I think de la de la clear
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that I was hating on that too like how they do that we anyway yeah but um but
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that was our thing our Monica we had a song that that we came out uh open up for Black Moon and it was just allowed
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us to do our back and forth so we was able to develop that so when we was doing Bucktown honestly we we know we
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needed an Anthem you know we had we had the back and forth joint that was cool we had let's get on we was doing a
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little bit of that but we wanted to kind of bust our you know guns a little bit and Bucktown we was channeling TR and
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Onyx you hear that he was channeling all these people wow my gosh that's what
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that's why I don't understand about hip-hop like yo uh people we use stuff we're not stealing it's like that's we
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know we paying homage in that regards but like we know we need to come here with something that people are going to
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want to be able to say the hook was important and we was blessed to come up with that with that and Bucktown was
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like when I say was cooking in the kitchen it was like we was recording demos before like he said um our big
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little brothers black moon was in the studio we was breaking day this was sleeping under big grand piano covers in
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the studio at night not leaving till 4 in the afternoon the next morning when you got there so as we're learning we
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couldn't get into the big Studio yet cuz it wasn't our shot yeah so we would be in the uh the D guard's kitchen bless
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Mama D guard no smoking in my house and this is freezing winter you know to park
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across the street f is like like yo we got to and that those
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those that that was bringing out the character of Smith and West was it wait how was it outside
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again that's that came from fingers was So Cold Rolling The Joint n but you know
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you know when you in the in the we we in the park though like like where the kids play they know they got them wooden
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things we trying to stand in between that like shoulder toer anything to get
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a little little more elevated goofy yeah cuz see Mr W evil D their mom's crit
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literally right across the street from the from the park and if you know you know you've been to they crib downstairs
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mad records everywhere the vyl the 12 it was just a crazy environment and then you go from that because I think
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everybody starts out that way your man a DJ or producer you start out in somebody's house everybody didn't have
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Studio money so even for me I started out at you know KRS one's house then KY
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Parker House making his music and then you finally get to a DND D which is where we formed our relationships like
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there was so many relationships that were formed in D and D Studios salute to Premiere because he introduced he had a
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room of his own and he introduced we see people coming in and out all the time and we all formed a Rel it was a special
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place you know it's no longer there unfortunately but even that was a place
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a proven ground because you would walk by rooms and he beats and [Â __Â ] come like
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yo who is spit to that like so a lot of magic got made won't y'all agree just
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being D Studio DND D was a it was a it was a home it's a iconic place I
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actually think uh Showbiz got it now in the Bronx yeah yeah cuz it was on like 38th Street he had a room there then he
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show biz built his own Studio up in the Bronx is it called headquar no that's what it was with Primo Primo is such a
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DOT connector that he he's another one that you have to protect and hold in high regards in in our culture and his
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music because he he's he's not one that's gonna try to block you from
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anything like you said he's making these connections and be like yo here this person blah blah blah blah and d and d
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was so crazy that it leads into that because it when we went to North Carolina to record this new album The
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Infinity with the soul cancel it took me right back to DN really so yeah so they
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they accepted us with open arms when I eat I got yeah m is the pool table a lot ofo
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playing wasn't but e Jones is such a dope Chef he he he bring pans of food and just we
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did then we go to Bojangles get the blueberry biscuits and once we locked in it's just like shoes off time to go to
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work man another day in the office you know one one of the things about you all in your music cuz I I've been very
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fortunate to travel a lot because of Hip Hop you know people fly you places they want to see these people
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on hip hop kid like they want to see you they want to touch you you know what I mean like damn is this real so I've been
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all around the world Germany you know France you know
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the Netherlands right Africa Japan the Philippines fourth passport you want oh
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man I don't know
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Tech it
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there are a few folks that I always hear music when I travel I went to the nether
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I called Heather be from Amsterdam yo I'm at a club at 2: in the morning and
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listen to what they playing yeah all Lo that happened to us a few times y'all
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music you guys are like when did you discover Europe do you recall when y'all
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we we was fortunate enough to discover Europe or for the sh Shin Like you said people fly you out
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there to see that cuz you remember okay during that time they was getting the the the motion and everything probably
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three to six months after it that's right dropped on this side so with
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technology making in a even playing field we was out there for oh sh we
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still toring over this album right there what do your what is your audience look like do they dressing like y'all you
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know what I mean do they they try couple of rundown
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Timberlands you could have left those in the crib fam our audience has actually been growing and building with
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Generations like the the dad or the uncle have their little son there who's probably about it' be 12 14 year olds in
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the front stage bopping and when you see this you got to salute that and bring them on stage and they say a little word
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or they might break dance just the the interaction with it is so crazy so there's been we call first timers for
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the first time seeing us perform and of course it comes down from the mother the father and that's I think that's how you
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keep generational that's how you keep the music alive keep going for the next 50 you think about how how old were we
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when we was when we tapped in to Hip Hop like we probably was around those ages like from 8 to probably like 11 15 those
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areas right so when you do when you're performing and like this guy is standing there and the guy next to him is
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definitely younger and he gets a chance to come to you like it's mindblowing like we never
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got a chance to go to to rock himim or Kan true bro we had did live around the
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corner for and we still couldn't get to him I had to hang out with little daddy sh yeah yeah we was shame big up shame
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but like we our idols and heroes we could not get that close to them let let alone comment on something that they
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that they think about so I guess maybe that taught us a little bit of respect and like when we got there here it was
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okay but I don't know like for for now I know the conversation has to be had for
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between all of us because for us to have the respect I think the history lesson is is missing you know so don't don't
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and this why in the beginning I said salute to you guys because it has to be some some some type of documentation
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like for us it was no documentation and whoever has the files just have the files right now now that we have the
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files we I guess we can curate it a little bit differently in and the guys that who are making them songs that you
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was talking about they know where it came from like for us we once we learned that Jack Bruce like they sample Jack
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Bruce like okay the music starts to expand for us we give us a different kind of appreciation for us so I don't
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like the growth it's like doing it all over again knowing something now and it's it's refreshing to be able to have the legs and the strength to do it amen
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and and the wisdom you've up right man and then y'all look great man give it up for these dudes man I know I see y'all
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on the rooftops oh man to pull up bars I know Tech trying to get me the workout look at him I don't have the endurance
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yet I got I got we got we got to do the 50 clip on in the next in the next uh
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break we're going to do our 50 clip straight 50 or straight 50 straight kid I you got
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it give me a 25 we we we can do we could do shorties we could do the Shorties
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what's that okay all right all right cool still I want to say to you man um
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you know nothing but tremendous respect for both of you thank you but you um in
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my in my I might be mistaken but I love to see you speaking out um as much as
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I've seen as of recently and just watching you on your IG and some of the things you talk about about surrounding
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mental health yeah and things that are going on in your life and I want to say congratulations to you man you announced
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your sobriety you've been over a year sober yes sir man salute to you King I want hey man that's motivation that's
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inspiration and believe it or not a lot of people that listen to you and follow follow you
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going through the same you know challenges so to be so open and transparent why why why now do you feel
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the need to be that way um I salute my team my team stuck with me most part um
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cynical my queen my part my partner crime pany they just they tolerated me
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man you know what I'm saying I was a mess and you know but I was strong I was conditioned off of that and I felt like
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I can hold it down now mhm and I had to literally you know just be honest and and and take some accountability like I
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was I was good at a lot of stuff but I was bad at a a lot of other stuff and that's not what I want to be that's one
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first and foremost and then then you start losing things that's important to you and losing people that's important
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to you and you go all right what do I really want to do you know and that's another step like do you want to live or
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do you want to tap out right now you know what I mean and again like for me the push was you know my partner cynical
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she's very important to me know we've been around for a long time we have a company together she's watching my kids
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grow and just watching her like sacrifice a lot of things for me and it's like what can I give to her if I'm
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not willing to give up this Vice then what what is my love what is my what am I dedicated to like that's be basically
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killing yourself yeah man boy salute to my man Kenny dogs too cuz he said yo son I hate to see you do this to yourself
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like you want one of the smartest people I know and you doing this to yourself so I'm I won't even go to the trauma of all the people like my boy being in a
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hospital the other one being the car crash like I had to make a decision for me and I didn't want to um like act like
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it was some rap thing yeah like I'm doing this thing do it with me like if you don't do it yourself then it's probably probably going to fall through
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the cracks it needed to be done how you feel I feel wonderful man congratulations brother congratulations
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man you had a grand another grand you had a grandchild I had a grandchild yes speak up to my son come on message
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jabriel come on you know what I mean my second son um had a had a beautiful daughter named arriel uhhuh um yeah man
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it's like certain things you don't want to I I I be conflicted with with sharing on you know gr sometimes cuz it's like
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yo sometimes they take these things for granted like I just be wanting to show like the vulnerability of us like we are
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artists but we also humans and we walk the same path that you guys walk when you're trying to do certain things and
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don't ever come to us thinking that we you know we we we like yeah and and artists man artists people who create
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for a living to bring some type of Happiness to enjoy to homes right we should get a special place somewhere
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like you should just part the water for me type when I come in Target like just
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move yeah I go to all that's my therapy I go to all of stoping shop seat
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Town wed I love I love to go through the ow yes it gives me peace to walk through
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the aisles and just see stuff too see stuff organized I'm like wow okay cool
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you know I apply that in life you know what I'm saying I'm going to go do I'm going try that [Â __Â ] Walmart therapy
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Walmart therapy not Walmart not Walmart who can I go to Wagman cost
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Costco therapy yeah all right okay no all right cool Mike Muse you want to say ask a
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question real quick yeah um first I want to say question you guys are amazing you talk about the joy and you brought into
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homes I literally think about Bucktown and where I was at music emotions and
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cap we used always have our After parties at the Kappa house and we used to love playing Bucktown and so the
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thought 30 years later I'd be able to ask you guys a question on Sway in the Morning is very mindblowing to me very
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very mind-blowing for me right now um so thank you for all the joy you brought to us into my life in the whole n but I
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kind of have a question speaking of a capus I kind of have a question about Brotherhood uh it's rare as you guys have been alluding to that a duo or a
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group has been around for over 30 years and still together and you can tell this Brotherhood is real yes and so I'm just wondering what is is the secret sauce to
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how your Brotherhood has been able to maintain through this ups and downs um wait why are they pointing at themselves
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over there the ladies are poting at ladies are pointing at them like hey
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I can answer that that's the they sign our checks like hey I got
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it n um well for me personally it's been it's been finding something that's
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greater than us for the most high I've been I've been Muslim for the past longer than 10 years now so is is
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finding a higher purpose staying focused learning your children and your partners
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and your your life Partners relationship know sometimes it's cool not to just say
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something just to get a response you know and just be a man and to have a
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partner like this you hear his wisdom and he seen something in me that I didn't even know I had so if it wasn't
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for him and our team we would it would be [Â __Â ] up I mean we'd be messed up
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yeah I think you know I I give credit to to my Lightner ruler and all the lessons we learned from watching all the dope
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fiends around the way um like and the trauma that we well
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I experien in my household like what brought my mother and father together what uh took him apart like how come hip
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hop doesn't have that type of foundation when we know for a fact that it's man wom and child here like we could talk
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about we could talk about like uh the the the importance of men and just bravado we could do that all the time
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but we cannot remiss the importance of the female like how do we present that like we had so such such such diversity
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in hip-hop like we had that so we just got to remember that that exists and we
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and and by us using that we say okay what what do we have at home we have our women at home like a lot of times we
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forget we in the mix we out at clubs we doing all of this next thing you know we messing with some clown you know what I
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mean we get our elv down that rabbit hole and then we forget what the foundation was so the foundation what
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keeps us grounded good family strugg and it's not without without his hiccups of course and it's crazy both of our
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mother's name is Barbara oh wow signs the signs is
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blatant blatant but but but salute to the queen salute the cynical and queens get the money because they are too
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forgiving powerful strong women they work hard and they probably Believe in Us more than we believe in ourselves on
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some days know lot of and big up to Zenovia too because cuz when you put women together and they
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start cooking they start getting things together they like Unstoppable yeah so we just kind of go like where do we
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stand uhhuh you know and and try to do the best we can support pretty what y
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you singing to the choir still you said it seem like you just don't say I
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don't say nothing you listen to the show sometimes they get in the zone I just I just fall back bro man fall back
28:28
and they play dirty they head they say stuff that they know is going to break you that's all they got for you is the
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stuff that's going to break you that's the big part though that's the big part because that'll help us get to where we trying to go right you knowledge wisdom
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understanding you don't get to understand without dealing with the wisdom and it's the year of the wisdom power so we're going to see a lot of
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females in the Forefront they was there the whole time and they're going to be it's it's it's even though the big Queen
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didn't win the Queens is winning and that's a fact so we're going to see a lot of that there you it's crazy not to
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cut your wisdom but when we did the 30th Anniversary at the monar in Brooklyn like after the show all our peop was
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coming out like yo man your girl wouldn't let me in the back room I couldn't get back they was on it they I
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was like I didn't even have my phone so what you want like yo man they got to
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remember me you know hey yeah we had we had I'm glad you
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touched on that too because it's important that we we we we remember that what we do is a job you know and of
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course if we can have every party for free yeah Smith and Wesson would have to have a lot of you know a lot of lot of
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lot of whatever we need whatever that stuff is cuz what is money now is it like coins what is it Bitcoin or we
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would need a lot of something right overhead for something but other than that we're providing a service you know
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what I mean that which we love to do so I guess I was I think I could say the people that came to that 30th
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Anniversary appreciate it paying they money for that you want something to value you do not mind spending that
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dollar at know I mean so Hip Hop shows us that we can find something of value
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in ourselves something that we create it's a little bit tricky because sometimes when you're dealing with black business I hate to say it like that
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black business is like can I is this can is this valid yeah right how do I check this thing and and and and we raised we
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conditioned off that so we got to it's so many it's so many different ways we got to work on our communication but
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what better place to be in other than a a a a platform like hip hop which it's
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all about communication there you go man come on come on and open doors all types of doors windows everything almost
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almost moved the Paris oh wow Paris is a movable place it's a place when you first touch those lens like this ain't
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like the television this a like no man real I can and you be surprised that the artist is over there already what Tash
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is over there alcoholics over there J Ru moves through Germany like he was born
30:53
over there J ru's been on tour for about 30 years I don't one one week he's a
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photographer one week he's a promoter and then he's like performing like living a beautiful life that New York
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City mentality like we we watch hip-hop grow hip-hop the hip-hop culture taught us those things like it ain't teach us
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to be a rapper everybody knew they couldn't rap it was some cast that was DJs like the DJs are disappearing salute
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to the DJs that's still clinging on to them you go we got J period we got DB right here J Perry J Perry is a
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scientist like you you take the DJ a Jedi to to to now curate in music that's
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what they do on the dance FL right M so respect to the DJ respect to the producers evil D Mr W you already know
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man Smith and Wesson is here man hey we got F do on the line from Philly man FK do what up man how you doing F do you
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there yes sir okay talk to salom yo yo The Shining was biblical to me man we
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love you in Philly yo thank you I remember so much different hip-hop coming out in '95 and The Shining was
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what stood out to me more than and everything like I remember [Â __Â ] going to court and [Â __Â ] and we would
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just we would listen to songs from uh Wesson and be like Inspire to hold on or
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you know what I mean keep it moving than before I go to bed I take a l to the Head stuff I just wanted to give you
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guys a lot of flowers we love you in Philly oh man salute salute salute to the Philadelphia Eagle Super Bowl
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champions per do they got the new album Infinity is out now wait till you hear this one call back and let us know what
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you think yeah okay no doubt uh it's a pleasure to be able to say uh thank you to you it's a pleasure to be able to say
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thank you to you see that's that's what this symbiotic relationship is about it's a give and give relationship man
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our we want you to walk away with something of value word you know what I'm saying word I'm sitting here listening to y'all talk and it's still
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so inspiring to my mind and my soul give thanks appreciate it bless you man happy
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Infinity day you man man you a super citizen brother the more man FK though with the interesting name speak speaking
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of super citizen I want to give a I want to give a strong big up shout out to the senator Jessica Ramos oh yeah she's out
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there doing a lot of good work she's looking for bigger and brighter pastures right now so we going to support her and
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hopefully she can change the game that's what I'm talking about the wisdom power you know what I mean the wisdom power salute to uh that got to be a movement
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the wisdom power sound like some 19 key [Â __Â ] actually hey he probably tapped
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into it but you know how he is yeah right higher level come on Vibe higher
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that's y know where from right hold up 19 K
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Brooklyn West Coast what the West Coast the West
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Coast Jersey it's the West Coast real you know what that is salute to you too
33:48
about that move to the West Coast man I think that's big what we was just talking about the you just made the official announcement give it up man
33:57
that's up but talk about it man I mean like he said for a place for a home for
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us artists that don't get what you think or what you call light or recognition
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you make it a a comfortable set in place for those artists to come in and express
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get their joints up had hear their music played to people that's out there yeah and what you were saying eating instead
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of competing against each other I think that's the the first step of how we move Community it back up and get us in our
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you know higher ranks they can't take our name they can't take our name got that pen we got to write our story or
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they will totally erase us yeah right or create one some allegory that had nothing to do with us see what I'm
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saying you messed around and and let us seen the book like the book to this game is different than ours like our we we
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work with intellectual property lives like they know how to do the ray Croc right they got buy the land and they
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what what we need they can give us that but we can always create intellectual property now we have to learn this the
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the the Inside Edition where we can learn how to keep it you know I mean and when we pass it on that's what we
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talking about Legacy Mike Tyson that's what we mean when we absolutely Legacy man yeah we will be um doing the show
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part of the show will be based in Los Angeles so um the morning show will be in La okay uh and it will be here in New
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York as well it's the part that folks don't know it's going to be by Coastal so we're going to have the LA offices
35:23
open and Tracy will be here with the rest of the crew in New York running the New York office so we going have we
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going to have uh guests on both sides now but our the mission is to go to La
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ain't no compet I'm not going to compete my only competition competition
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man it's it was a time where where with DJ's broke records I think they don't do
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that anymore so it's like all right you just got to box SI like being in elevator it's Corners whoever's in that
35:51
corner you you you got a corner are you who going to you know what me right y'all got to secure yourselves so so and
35:58
and you know you tear down the walls and we and we we we in the park with it so whatever you give us we're going to have
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these these platforms and these functions we not only in the buildings serious radios we
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outside so 10 toes baby man La we coming it's going to be a beautiful thing man
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um a couple things I got I got some people online but there's a song you
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know that um I lost my father years ago right and it had been the hardest thing
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to talk about you know working on radio even you know even um when it happened
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it was something I never thought I would talk about right but you know what this is all about is being honest transparent
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and who you are absolutely at any given moment and in this song Church uh Tech
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you talk about losing your father right right after your birthday right after my
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oh man it was It was a to a tormentous time yeah I lost uh my bestie which is
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my lady's daughter Tiana Williams to Sickle Cell wow so um that's another
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reason the name of the album is called Infinity because she would have a saying they would have saying I love you from
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infinity and beyond so she we lost her on February
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22222 wow so that was a rare occasion that haven't happened in however many
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years and won't ever happen again you see that and um my pops came right after that my brother came
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right after my pops on my birthday we had a show in VA I got the call for that literally on stage like that was crazy
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my other brother I lost the co and then my elder sister also so it was like you
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said you when you don't have time to grieve and to get through it for me it
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was burying myself into the work into the music so thank you for recognizing
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that I hope it the point got across to a lot of people that's out there it's just like us as even black men we don't we
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don't speak about it no we don't we don't have nobody that we can call or say oh that's my man cuz you worried
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about well he gonna go tell your business to the next person then he gonna look at you crazy like yo this [Â __Â ] bugged out it's like so just
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really touching on it is what really help me get through it and I it like
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people say it gets easier man but it I'm about to tear up now like cuz I seen
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my pops develop dementia like I was one of the first in the family to call it out and when you see somebody that's
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your idol that's the person that's so strong you L you look up to I it was I
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had to literally carry him one time and it was just [Â __Â ] broke my heart it's
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crazy yeah man well I appreciate you sharing it because like you said and here's the other thing a lot of us don't
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even have the the fortune uh to have our fathers Even in our lives
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right and so to hear you talk about this is rare but necessary it's definitely
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necessary right let's play Church please okay and we going to come back with Smith and West come
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on Church of the new album Infinity by legendary Smith and won come on man they
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are here man we got a couple of people on the line let's take them to Nebraska angel had a question go want to has
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something to say Angel go ahead hi guys sorry I'm crying right now
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this is amazing that that song is great I I can relate I lost my
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father the week after my birthday so I feel for you guys I just
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want to say congratulations and I wanted to say thank you because you guys read my poem yesterday I tried to call I
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literally woke up like right after congratulations to you that was your home
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the one about history uh with the wind the memory memory memory yeah wow you're
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incredible Angel yeah yeah when we were doing our reading our letters from Swain the morning love gmail.com yeah thank
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you for sharing one day I decided to sweep in I was as soon as I woke up I was like I'm gonna get the radio on and
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as soon as I got on you guys had just read it so wow that's the signs it's
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timing yo that's how you deal with that that's how you deal with that downtime you you do something that'll bring you
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up something you good at there you go hey angel kiss that baby for me in the
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background and and thank you for right in both of y'all citizens man okay let's
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take them to Phoenix Arizona Marcus on the line go ahead Marcus hey marus hey what's up what's up hey Smith
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West yo I've been riding with you guys since they shining can't play knck down you know what I'm saying I want to
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congratulate you on that year sobriety I just hit 18 months on Tuesday
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work recovery that deser Applause nice thank you thank you and I can feel you
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with the father saying I have a father who has Alzheimer's and it's just it's tough it's rough watching him he was so
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wise to not even you know recognize anything nowadays and so my heart goes out to you and um keep keep pushing one
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day at a time brother One Day At A the time you know what I'm saying stay with that spirituality stay boang Boomerang
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yes sir yes sir like I said I've been a DI hard fan and I'm glad y'all are still going congratulations on the new album
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yeah that's what's up much love appreciate you brother Marcus appreciate you man you're a super citizen man oh
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sweet in the moon let's take it to BK Brooklyn New York we got you know with a name like Mickey
41:46
bundles he must be from that's the homie Mick bundles that's Guy what's good what
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up what up yo what up my guys
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good what up brother I'm proud of y'all man I'm proud
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of you still Tech man we go back 30 years High School still I'm proud of you
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man for your journey bro and I'm just proud of everything y'all do I always come out support y'all man y the
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motivation y set the barall and still we got Roy flush went through his thing and
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when you got up there show and said what you said that [Â __Â ] put a a spark in me bro I was got that full physical I hit
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the gym I eat better I don't sh maral there you go I appreciate y'all man it's
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always a jewel of Hip Hop and yall always giving out the jewels man sometime I give away the source a little
42:40
too much but to do man man keep this thing going and Y
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showing at our age we still get Fly we still we still look good we still
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spitting and we about Family Man Bo family man we still doing it all MC bundles man you
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a super citizen man man do my thing I do my thing man you get busy that's a fact
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what's happening tonight oh we going to see we going we rocking out of theight the fly private private social back to
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back right right fact we having an Infinity dinner that don't mean free
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food okay all right I thought man I got excited I thought it like food forever
43:25
Inus just make you feel good okay okay for a long time oh man they banana p is that open to the public that is open to
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the public it is free 99 to enter just come in and Vibe up where's over for free ride the Free Ride is over yeah
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well you just gotta bring you got to bring good energy because we can see it we can see it at the door but where is it located it's in Brooklyn on decal and
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Vanderbilt and what's the name of the place fly private social 240 decal 240
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decal yo if y'all the Tri State come join them man in the heart of Clinton Hills Brooklyn bring bring good MC Bond
43:57
have a great day man yo loveo and we going to be having some we
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going to have some um special treats if you if you're there in the flesh tonight you might get uh get some of the uh
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merch that we have on Deck limited bundle package very limited but that's first come first serve there you go hey
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man when we first of all love you Brothers love you I got to say that live on there look you in your eye and tell
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you I love you still Tech I love you brother you already know we started this
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thing with a with a with a Cipher from 1999 as we celebrate this 30y year
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anniversary yeah come on man skin 2025 man rub that record DB come on man let's
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do it man drop a beat on Welcome to the Valley of the hyenas you know what this
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is you know what this is still H Smithy Wesson the old brothers uhoh stuck down
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let's see what the old head got Brooklyn stand
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up come on let's see let's see what the old head got what he got ah man talk to
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him the Timeless head Timeless head listen yo yeah hold those who so sees a
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deception we hold clone cuz we need all modes of protection your infold disos F cloes and on your section Expos clones
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that POS us Bros what's the connection what's the relation 6 degre of Separation he went on vacation came home
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on pation guil by association [Â __Â ] just got complacent running in place repeating mistakes stuck at the pre
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[Â __Â ] all drags of society different variety suffering privately a Diary of a Dying post traumatic the most dramatic
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most the addicts talk erratic hold to sporadic folks and panic kids act like their own parents granny your legal
45:46
guardian Mommy your daddy vanish like magic life flashes sometimes tragic well life matters when all the masses are all
45:52
Massac he shot son son died he got locked up his life done baby was just knocked up popped up doing the same [Â __Â ]
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po do forgot love father wasn't there but the block was say it again man I said what thehead
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got your favorite rapper became a star up out of people your favorite rapper just got robed by his people your
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favorite rapper ain't just a rapper he red that goco for real rappers get clapped with that Rico get fou in this
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game y s ain't no free throw we not equal all you can see is a angry negro branded about the label granted I sign
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my name on the line no a to blame with my Rhymes or my behavior hat cuz I be dropping the dime or making statements
46:32
do the crime then I'm going to do the time not they gave me only gy [Â __Â ] rotting on old ladies and babies like
46:37
getting bit from a dog you rais and dying from rabies that's like crazy Dark Days the light hazy I like Haze in a
46:43
park car reciting J It's A Hard Knock Life we all got gripes we all up tight
46:48
we all got pipes St your rights freedom of Life freedom of death freedom of speech freedom of choice I'm just trying
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to be me fre fre nope not talking TV but we woke I hope that all of y'all can see
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what I see let's [Music]
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go westling yo we got a guardian in
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here we got a god hyen up in here God hen yes we do come on Sean Price told me to rap for
47:20
Life Sean Price man that [Â __Â ] got you all right T you yo still
47:27
still saw LL come up here and said man I keep telling him his p is dangerous yo
47:33
that was crazy that was also one of my Beats by the way so I just
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want I always say something special for certain MC's and it was just like yo I've been a fan for a long time and I
47:46
wanted to have something ready for y'all in case y was apprciate that that's B yo can they have that
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be yo of course you can yeah always we always for oh my gosh thank you still
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that was man that was amazing bro I'm me Tech I'm calling you sag no I am sag Tech the other one yeah yeah you're
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getting confused that's your Tech I got a tech we both got a tech we from the same tribe yes yeah yo still that was
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[Â __Â ] amazing bro I know I can't come up here I know you I know how you do man yeah bro you know what I'm saying I know
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have to beat I know you know she be she be quiet but she be like yeah what what what they got what's real you know
48:25
that's hey and I got see don't don't SLE be tiptoeing around hea be come on
48:31
and I got a couple of faces I hit you with I hit you with the approval face and I'll hit you with the smile
48:39
I but you don't know the uncle eye the uncle eye you know what I mean cuz you know what I don't want to I don't I got
48:45
this thing now I don't want to you know when we came up dudes would come on the Wake Up Show and they'll do a verse and
48:52
I'll be like y okay all right you warmed up is that the best you got yeah you did that to us a few
48:58
times like all right boot camp what else you got like oh snap Drew H be like yo
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y'all better y know yall need at least two or three you need two or three like all right I got hold you he was in the
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car going I'm like no that was Ill as Tipsy from last come on man Smith and
49:14
Wesson y'all give it up man it's a beautiful thing congratulations the new
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album is infinity the 30 year anniversary The Shining man congratulations to y'all love y'all have
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a beautiful night tonight happy infity day no it's just beautiful to see y'all
49:31
here I think one you guys mentioned it earlier it's just it's not many groups left that we you know that it's mop they
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still rocking and doing their thing it's the locks you know but it's not many and so it's beautiful to see y'all like and
49:45
I just I say that to MLP every time I see those are my brothers the locks those are my brothers you know but and
49:52
y'all are my brothers I'm just saying people sway for me who I have relationship that we built
49:59
stud like mention we all try to get there you know what I mean and it's a
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different we had our backpacks we had our black and white notebooks we had our Tims we was just doing our things so I
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love it and I love to see y'all so we love you I'm in your corner all right there you go man wisdom
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power strength of the wisdom we got the strength of the wisdom so God can show his light you know what I mean so when
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we come from when we come from that from that Earth when we come from that Earth we here to we here to run through the land so what we doing right now for
50:29
these youngers out here we knocking down all these trees so if it look easy that's because we did that work that
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work prior so now we see all this construction that's what we dealing with right now for us Infinity means building
50:40
moving forward what can we do with this hip-hop thing that we created thank love it man thank you brother I appreciate
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you man we going that's the on that note salute to my team Mike m Tracy G
50:53
Ka torch DB and billionaire the one and only Heather be hea salute to the Queens
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in the corner up get the money right duck down family Drew High
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James I know they on listening you know what I'm saying peace to the people that's listening right now worldwi absolutely and y'all rock out to this
51:13
Infinity Project all weekend long you know um the soul Council and Ninth
51:18
Wonder y'all did that all right put a little soul in your life okay make sure you go to swayed Universe you'll be able
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to see this was live today Serious XM you can go to sxm app and play it back when you want to hear it Drew Drew over
51:30
here is going to finish producing the video we'll have that up in a day or two you can watch it for yourselves thank
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you for rocking with us this week to all the citizens and remember stay on the right side of positivity and until
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Monday we have nothing left to say
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